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Frank Castros 09-08-2024 05:19 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Everyone goes a little "extra" to get an advantage but this is blatant in your face cheating.

1320, you would be the first one screaming if you where in the other lane.

Joseph Lily 09-08-2024 07:10 PM

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This right here is the reason you don't cheat. You get caught, your past and present will be tarnished, forever.

The Stanfields had everything to lose and very little to gain. Greg's world championships and everything that family has done up until this point is questionable. Its not a question of if they cheated, merely a how. And I don't want to hear NHRA's fault as the rule didnt state diameter, just number of teeth. Its not like they didn't know what they were doing was illegal. Blatant cheating

Rest In Peace Howard Stanfield, I'm sure after this your lying face down. Tarnishing the Stanfield name for history. Very sad

1320racer 09-08-2024 07:19 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 702589)
1320, you would be the first one screaming if you where in the other lane.

Wrong, I'd be cheating too like the many that are.:p

Frank Castros 09-08-2024 07:27 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 702596)
Wrong, I'd be cheating too like the many that are.:p

No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.

Larry Hill 09-08-2024 07:28 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
I would think the folks in question would be out for a year with a $25,000 fine that said we don?t want you back!!

1320racer 09-08-2024 07:35 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 702597)
No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.

You can say the same about many of your heros and competitors :p

Bobby DiDomenico 09-08-2024 08:07 PM

Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 702576)
That is a very good question.

From what the Turks said the pulley had the right number of teeth but was a larger diameter. A pulley that they had fabricated. They said it also had a cover on it to make it harder to see.

No one has been able to tell me if the infraction was caught before racing, during or after.

It would seem like NHRA needs to modify the rules to set a diameter as well as a tooth count.

Bill

There must be a part number and corresponding spec for the sprocket right? This is amazing.

Adub464Q 09-08-2024 09:08 PM

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While I applaud the tech dept for finally doing SOMETHING. I am disappointed in the decision for some simple fines and some points.

They were allowed to fix the issue and continue with the event (my impression of the releases on NHRA race).

If this were any common sportsman racer and not associated with a name in sportsman racing, the outcome would be different.

Last year, a D7 sportsman racer at Dallas won first round of the Allstars at Dallas and was DQed for a wheelbase infraction. Why wasn?t this racer allowed to ?correct the issue??

Kevin Panzino 09-09-2024 07:03 AM

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The comments about the pulley having the right number of teeth but a different diameter doesn?t make sense because you have to have a certain pitch between teeth to match the pitch of the belt. So if the jackshaft pulley had 32 teeth, and the blower had 32 ( I don?t even know if that was spec at the time, just an example) and you made the jack shaft pulley larger diameter you would need a different pitch belt. And then you also need to make the blower pulley the same diameter to match the pitch of the belt. So nothing at all gained?

Billy Nees 09-09-2024 07:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino (Post 702611)
The comments about the pulley having the right number of teeth but a different diameter doesn?t make sense because you have to have a certain pitch between teeth to match the pitch of the belt. So if the jackshaft pulley had 32 teeth, and the blower had 32 and you made the jack shaft pulley larger diameter you would need a different pitch belt. And then you also need to make the blower pulley the same diameter to match the pitch of the belt. So nothing at all gained?

I'm guessing that it would depend on how "tight" you could get the teeth on the belt to hug the jackshaft pulley and how "loose" you could get the teeth to hug the blower pulley and still work. I can't imagine there being a great difference in diameter but........


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