Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Do what you want to do. Liberty. The government is not smart enough to know how to protect people from themselves. Since the survival rate is around 98%, just catching the disease is not terminal. Don't be foolish (hard for some people), but don't live in fear because your sensibilities are being bombarded constantly with a single message.

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

First, I haven't heard one story how anyone, famous or otherwise, specifically contracted the disease.
Sure, someone, let's say from Cleveland, might attend an event at Norwalk, and then test positive, of course, not knowing if they got it at the track. That person might then hire a lawyer and try to pin it on Mr. Bader and co. He would have to deal with that aspect. I'm sure he thought this all through.

Another option would be to keep the track closed and then lose his livelihood and that of others involved.

Perhaps you ought to define "good judgement and common sense" .

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

I live in Washington and things are a little difficult until May 4th, at least. In some areas things might be able to happen using common sense. If social distancing is encouraged and everyone stays safe small events could possibly happen. It definitely depends on the area and what the guidelines are for that area. Stay safe and healthy my friends.

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Google "Biogen Boston" and look in the news section for stories about how a single conference helped spread COVID-19 into Massachusetts and beyond. Hint: In early to mid-March, 92 people in Massachusetts had COVID-19. 70 of them were either Biogen employees or related to them.

Or, you could see a spike of cases in the Cleveland area, with the common demoninator being that people developing the new cases all went to the track seven to 21 days before.

As for being thought through, do you really think an insurance company would say "Good plan. Go for it?"


OK ... It is balancing possible short-term gain against possible long-term losses.

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Man, I feel for him. But to make it worthwhile, he needs attendance, lots of it, buying food, drinks etc....can't see it. I've been there 3 times and I told Bader to his face that I hate him...he and his track have ruined me for almost every other track or experience. I want to go one more time, in fact just cancelled rooms in Norwalk.

I want to race very bad....but my plan is to seek out venues, with space to pit all alone, in the boonies, and limit any people contact, and stay in trailer (no motels), carry food & water, no concessions (ain't figured out bathrooms yet)….most points races have little or no fans anyway, although desire to see "something" may bring them out....I THINK I can be careful in most points race environments.....can't see how Norwalk can do it, But I wish them well

DeWine vs Bader, pass the popcorn

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Alright, but we're going backwards in time now.. There are now hundreds of cases in Cleveland..1000's in Boston area.
If and when Norwalk re-opens, new cases will have gone down. Still, it would be difficult to pinpoint the exact time and place of contact. That's not to say some lawyer wouldn't try it.
Mr Bader's insurance companies and lawyers would have to make the call.
We could do "what ifs" and "supposin's" until next year .
By that time , Trump's economy would be in shambles. I'd hate to see that.
That's probably the difference between you and I.

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Hi Dwight,
I think you 98% might be a little high. But the real question is what is the mortality rate in the older age group which many here fall into?

Stan

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

Perhaps you will understand this and perhaps you won't. In this context greed is anybody willing to risk the life of another human being for the sake of a GD dollar. Do you understand that?

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

I agree Dwight I dont trust the goverment one bit

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 

This is just more of Bader grandstanding. There will be dozens of police cars at the Norwalk track if he attempts to open the gates. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he would get himself arrested just for the press. But you can bet your Stimulus check/direct deposit that the track will remain closed as long as the Governor wants it closed. All the rest of his stuff is hooey.