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X-TECH MAN 09-08-2018 04:15 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
Edited by X-Tech Man

Pete Lanciers 09-08-2018 04:37 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
It's inconceivable to me that after screwing Pro Stock up beyond repair, NHRA would double down on the logic that begat that mess!

Charlie A 09-08-2018 05:26 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
I am a 66 year old spectator but screwin’ the rules like this in racing is the same as “No Child Left Behind” in education.
In education.... some people are just smarter.
In racing ... some people are just faster.

Billy Nees 09-08-2018 05:34 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!

Mike Jones 09-08-2018 05:37 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 572273)
If you look at the first 2015 DragPac Dodge that made its debut in the spring of 2016 compared what is running now in 2018 that it still being called a 2015 they are very different cars. Cut out radiator supports, been at least 5 different blocks. A blower spacer and some other updates that just showed up on these cars. If you go to Ford and Chevrolet and want to buy parts to build a XX car you can go anywhere and buy the same parts these guys are running. With the Dodge you have to buy from DSR and that’s the only place you can get it. Only a few select people have been able to acquire replacement parts for these cars. Dodge makes and keeps developing new parts for the car they built 3 years ago without any prior approval from NHRA. This is not what the class was supposed to become.
There is more to this story than the world picking on Dodge. Plus they are 5 MPH faster than any of the other competition. There are real good
people working on Chevrolet’s and Fords. When they are a 10th + behind that’s a problem. .06 or so that’s just a slight advantage.

Is 50 pounds really going to hamstring this dominant cars? Absolutely not. They will still be a tenth ahead of everyone else. To keep the class growing, exciting and maintain some parody some concessions have to be made for the good of the class. If it was a Chevrolet or Ford dominance it would should still be wise to do the same. Keep your heart out of your judgement and look at the class as a whole.
National Dragster (9-7-18) has an article on DSR and Dodge`s FS program. The sportsman version of FS didn`t last very long.
Mike A114

JHeath 09-08-2018 05:50 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 572293)
and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!
Billy, you are 100% correct, as always !

GUMP 09-08-2018 07:39 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
Quote:
For example, why is the 2015 Camaro SS shipping weight only 3320, a good 500 lbs less than what they actually are? The 2010 has what appear to be far more legitimate weights, 3780 automatic and 3849 stick. Are there other examples where the weight is that far from reality?
Once all of the Federally regulated stuff like air bags, ABS, etc. is gone these cars get very light. It just doesn't make sense to add the amount of weight to these cars that you are asking. My 2015 is legal and weighs a little over 3100 lbs with driver when there is no ballast in it.

Also, the shipping weight for the 2010 is wrong. I purchased a zero option SS. It was quite a lot lighter than the published spec.

Coleydog 09-08-2018 08:58 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 572293)
and not to take anything away from the Bartons and Pattersons or Kevin out there but......... after a year of "Sportsman" Racers doing their thing in FS, the whole thing has gotten polluted by the unlimited funds and influence of DSR Racing!
Doesn't the F in FS mean factory? Don't blame Dodge if GM doesn't give support to their racers. If you don't have a pocketbook, stay away from this class.

Coleydog 09-08-2018 09:19 PM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
sorry, double post somehow

Brett C 09-09-2018 12:30 AM
Re: Make the Chevrolet Win
 
There’s no crying emojis available here Ken!!!!


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