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SSDiv6 06-13-2017 02:53 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by 1reddago (Post 537280)
check out the face book page looks like an air cleaner set up for Fuel Injection not a carb https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.

Mark Callanan 06-13-2017 03:25 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 537299)
It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.

I am not the smartest guy out there thats for sure
but if its on that car it is worth something
And since its a carb car I assume that should not be on the car
I guess that may show an issue with no tech at national events

Hacksaw 06-13-2017 03:29 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 537299)
It has a drop down air cleaner base like many of the cars that run a carburetor.

What you are referring to is the factory inlet portion of the assembly that connects to the remainder of the fuel injection air cleaner assembly.

The fuel injection inlet is not connected to the carburetor, therefore, it does not act like a ram air system. I doubt it has any effect on the performance of the engine since it's not connected directly in any way or form to the carburetor. It's removal will not effect the performance of the car.

You are correct in your description, however there is a performance increase with that inlet vs no inlet. It directs cooler frontal air towards the carb. I think the car needs to be a Z to utilize that piece.

Lee Valentine 06-13-2017 05:00 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
That's the secret 1.20 inlet system, the fast guys have them. must be in West Coast rule book.

SSDiv6 06-13-2017 05:26 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 537305)
You are correct in your description, however there is a performance increase with that inlet vs no inlet. It directs cooler frontal air towards the carb. I think the car needs to be a Z to utilize that piece.

I will bet if they remove it, there will not be any performance degradation. The factory FI setup has a restrictive outlet as shown in the picture. In addition, the inlet portion, as shown in the picture, is restricted and even when you remove the panels, the grills are small and are not pointed forward, they are pointed downwards.

If it was so effective, why racers with FI remove the whole assembly and use a straight K&N air filter directly on the throttle body?

The drop down carburetor base is more effective since it distributes the air more efficiently at the carburetor entry.

Billy Nees 06-13-2017 05:30 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 537314)
I will bet if they remove it, there will not be any performance degradation.

If it doesn't belong there and it isn't worth anything then why is it there? You're betting with other peoples money.

Todd Hoven 06-13-2017 05:54 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
Depends on the carb setup. Not all gains are about cold air. Just saying. It can change the fuel curve going down the track. If it's run, it could be for a reason.


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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 537314)
I will bet if they remove it, there will not be any performance degradation. The factory FI setup has a restrictive outlet as shown in the picture. In addition, the inlet portion, as shown in the picture, is restricted and even when you remove the panels, the grills are small and are not pointed forward, they are pointed downwards.

If it was so effective, why racers with FI remove the whole assembly and use a straight K&N air filter directly on the throttle body?

The drop down carburetor base is more effective since it distributes the air more efficiently at the carburetor entry.


Paradigm Shift 06-13-2017 05:56 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
It certainly doesn't appear to have any business there although it is a very ineffective device, even when utilized with the fuel system for which it was designed.

Using pressure barometers as well as other measuring tools, this vehicle has almost 18,000 CFM of airflow being delivered to the front of the engine at highway speeds.

The drop base is a very conventional unit available almost anywhere performance parts are sold. I've tested both the factory fuel injected inlet shown as well as countless bases. The benefit of utilizing the 14" base is not to create an evenly distributed entry profile.

The car is unlikely to realize this plastic component exists. However, rules are established and must be complied with.

keith ohanesian 06-13-2017 06:27 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 537305)
You are correct in your description, however there is a performance increase with that inlet vs no inlet. It directs cooler frontal air towards the carb. I think the car needs to be a Z to utilize that piece.

Why do people say things they don't know anything about. Was a 305 tip engine only available in an Iroc-z in 85-86 NO. They came in Camaro's and Berlinetta's. That piece directs fresh air from behind the bumper cover up to the throttle body of the tpi. There is no "ram air" effect. He'd be better off lower the nose and raising the from to of the hood and taking that off. But then people would say thats cheating also.

I guess this is what happens when someone spends hard earned money with Gulius.

keith ohanesian 06-13-2017 06:30 PM

Re: All 305 Engines Horsepower
 
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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 537316)
Depends on the carb setup. Not all gains are about cold air. Just saying. It can change the fuel curve going down the track. If it's run, it could be for a reason.

Seriously Todd?!? Come on this is not a max wedge.


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