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shumate65 05-23-2017 08:23 AM
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You'll have to dig into the NHRA's website to even find sportsman records. I recall there used to be a link off of the main site. Maybe I just missed it... Found the link hidden under the pro records. They could at least put the link back up on the main page at no cost to them. Motor going to dyno and should be back out soon.

Rsmith38 05-23-2017 08:30 AM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
Took me 3 years to set the IHRA record (bad fuel, Hurricane -only 1 run)
but I finally got it done! You can't do it at divisonals - so only a few chances to set one.






1051 (former) NHRA IHRA record holder

Spyphish 05-23-2017 08:56 AM
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Of course I would like to be the first AH car in the teens which would be a HUGE record but I live and run where it is hot. I do get great satisfaction that I am 4 & 0 against the cold air racer that has the record and love stirring it up. Maybe he will read this and come to BG to shut me up. Thanks Al Gore for this venue. Formerly Phish

Michael Beard 05-23-2017 09:16 AM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsmith38 (Post 535375)
Took me 3 years to set the IHRA record (bad fuel, Hurricane -only 1 run)
but I finally got it done! You can't do it at divisonals - so only a few chances to set one.
It was the other way around for us. We always set records at the IHRA Pro-Am events, not national events. You'd teardown on Friday, have everything checked, then sealed when it went back together, and set records on Saturday.

You used to get 5 points for setting a record, which you could earn up to 2x per year. Myron Piatek and I used to bounce records back and forth by a few hundredths to get points. (except the one time we found a bad intake gasket during teardown... I tagged the J/CM 1/4-mile record more than intended, even lifting early! LOL)

There were a few championships decided on record points. Eventually they did away with them.

Tim Kish 05-23-2017 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 535307)
Mopar is paying $500 for setting a record this year, that's a great start. That may be for Drag Paks only, I will have to read it again. I plan on collecting at the next National Open. I like Ed's thoughts on qualifying as well, we are supposed to be all about performance.


Dennis Breeden
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ALMACK 05-23-2017 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Beach (Post 535369)
Correct me if I am wrong but you should only set a record at an 'Open'. If you set a record at a 'divisional' you would a) get a strike on your combo if it was faster than 1 under & b) get instant HP if you were 1.2 under. So I believe that takes away the desire to try to set records at 'divisional s'. That limits the races where records could be set. Since you get nothing for setting a record (other than HP) or getting credit for working hard on your combo, is it worth the cost & time of tearing down you engine?
Add to that you cannot set the 1/8th mile e.t. and mph record at 1/4 mile divisional races. ( which I do not understand since you are driving right past the 1/8th mi. timers anyways)

National Opens are the way to go for record setters, but unfortunately for racers at Div. 3 1/4 mi. tracks, that only leaves one per year now :(

Dan Fahey 05-23-2017 10:46 AM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 535384)
It was the other way around for us. We always set records at the IHRA Pro-Am events, not national events. You'd teardown on Friday, have everything checked, then sealed when it went back together, and set records on Saturday.

You used to get 5 points for setting a record, which you could earn up to 2x per year. Myron Piatek and I used to bounce records back and forth by a few hundredths to get points. (except the one time we found a bad intake gasket during teardown... I tagged the J/CM 1/4-mile record more than intended, even lifting early! LOL)

There were a few championships decided on record points. Eventually they did away with them.

Wish they did not do that..
Setting a National Record is something the Fans GET !

Dan

Trevor Weiss 05-23-2017 11:32 AM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
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Ed Carpenter 05-23-2017 11:46 AM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
I'm going to put together a nice presentation and submit it to NHRA. It may be futile but I will try anyway. I will keep everyone posted. Thanks. Ed

Nick Heath 05-23-2017 12:12 PM
Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor Weiss (Post 535400)
The other thing fans get is HEADS UP RACING especially now with that TV show Street Outlaws. So if there was Class added to Divisionals or have 1 or 2 Division races per Division per year that is only Class, that would draw fans and racers and have no hp hits for going to fast at those races and allow records. Just a thought because I would probably only go to the Division races that had Class only!
Great idea! The only catch is that class eliminations also need to prioritized, promoted, and/or showcased for it to work. If they're on the schedule for Friday at 11:00 am of a 3 day divisional and are the first thing to get axed when there's a rain delay...you won't draw as many fans and they won't have much of an impact.


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