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Speer Drag Racing 03-18-2016 09:25 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
As previously stated, this is about entering a year of car that can not be entered in that class. Unless there is something I am missing, this is the same exact scenario that Bogaki was disqualified from in Brainerd a few years ago. So the precedence has been set. It will be interesting to see what NHRA does with it!

Tony Janes 03-18-2016 10:07 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
I think that pretty much ended stock for Bogaki, probably did not like all the rules.

Alan Roehrich 03-18-2016 10:12 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speer Drag Racing (Post 498646)
As previously stated, this is about entering a year of car that can not be entered in that class. Unless there is something I am missing, this is the same exact scenario that Bogaki was disqualified from in Brainerd a few years ago. So the precedence has been set. It will be interesting to see what NHRA does with it!

You are correct. I didn't want to bring up names, Luke is a friend, and that whole deal is something I'm sure he'd rather just forget.

Dick Butler 03-18-2016 10:18 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
Guess the question is how "strict" are the rules on identifying cars? to run a class. Let tail lights be wrong once then Grille, then Hardtop and 4 drs.
I had to go to junk yard to get dome light lens for my Chevelle wagon before I could run Indy. Farmer and Marty suggested this and I got one. Had to report back to show Farmer before I could make a time run.

Paul Precht 03-18-2016 11:35 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
The taillights aren't a big issue IMO but it would be great if my natural AA car could run in B where it would fit best. I miss it by 3 HP

Tom keedle 03-19-2016 07:50 AM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 498633)
The 68 Nova had the key switch in the dash. 69 and up have the key switch in the steering column.

...and the door lock knobs are in a different place;)

Jeff Niceswanger 03-19-2016 08:58 AM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 498605)
If you are one of the lucky individuals that have a car that can be converted to another year with a couple of tail lights and/or trim, then you should have to adhere to the rules specifically.

I've had to scour junkyards in Commerce, GA to get a 2bbl carb air filter hold down bolt to continue competition the next day of eliminations at The Southerns.

So I would have to concur that the correct tail lights should be used.

Back in the old days the violators would be flogged, tar & feathered, or forced to walk the plank.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA its not who you know ...........

Back in the old day, I'm sure it did not cost every bit of 1/2 of a weeks pay to enter .... Did it ? This is the kind of tid bits that run people off. Its confusing to talk about the originality aspect, and then turn around and allow crate motors in ... Looking from an outsiders view, ... the tail lights have to be the correct, original equipment , for the year,.... but the engine don't ? It keeps getting harder and harder to explain these classes to folk ...

Billy Nees 03-19-2016 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 498605)
U/SA its not who you know ...........

Ron, not to get too picky but this IS the 21St century. Mightn't you mean "it's not WHAT you know ..........."

Gary Merrick 03-19-2016 09:48 AM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
The first NHRA sanctioned event I went to was in 1970 in Columbus, Ohio, for a Points Meet (yeah, I am old). Marty Barrett teched my car in and he started writing things wrong, "no radio delete plate, no outside mirror, to start with, and we had not even lifted the hood. He looked at me and said, "do you want me to go on, cause you are not racing today". My point being is that everybody's car has something wrong with it currently (whether it be intentional or unintentional). If the the tech guys want to find something and nit pick it they can, but they pretty much just concentrate on the safety items and that is OK in my book. However, when it comes to engines, transmissions, drive trains, etc., the line has to be drawn, a 1970 Nova does not make AA/S. The precedent had been set in Brainerd a few years ago with oddly enough the same year car and engine combination, although an automatic vs. a manual, but basically the same situation. Me personally, I really don't like seeing anybody not getting to race, especially, someone from out of the country, but the rules are the rules and for this occurrence it is very obvious (at least to me) what needs to be done.

Gary Merrick
3522 Stock

Randall Klein 03-19-2016 12:02 PM

Re: So, what should happen to
 
Years ago we were helping a newbie with a 350HP 66 Chevy II, and were cautioned about the missing SS emblem on the glove box. Guys like Bogacki and Alund are not steeped in nuances of class racing, that differentiate us from so called Bracket Racers, as many are want to do.
My first new car was a 396/375 Nova 1969, so I watch those years and know the minor differences, years ago it seemed clear that you could claim any year. However the Bogacki thing really sets a precedent in this case.

Entrants like Alund lend a certain cachet to our midst, and it will be interesting to see if he gets a pass from NHRA. Kinda feel bad, as I did for the Brainerd incident as newbies must be muttering "what the heck?"


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