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CBS 12-14-2011 07:58 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Don't be taking shots at me....I thought your comments were funny.....Ryan just doesn't know you.....lol

Ryan....dynamo is a good guy....he runs top sportsman....he's just messing with you....

He remembers way back when they were legal....

I don't think our SS car is quite fast enough.....lol

Jason Oldfield 12-14-2011 08:44 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 298902)
I don't think our SS car is quite fast enough.....lol

From what I've heard it's not too far off! :D

And what's with the 300 seconds between posts? Even posting novels like I generally do, I've come up against the 300 second limit at least 3 times in the last month. ANNOYING!

Still waiting...91 seconds to go....Sigh....

Down to 68 seconds...any day now I'll be able to click the submit button and actually have it take my post.

Cripes...It only took me 27 seconds to type the above comment!?!? COME ON!

Hey! We're making progress...Down to 14 seconds...This SHOULD do it!

TS310C 12-15-2011 02:57 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 298902)
Don't be taking shots at me....I thought your comments were funny.....Ryan just doesn't know you.....lol

Ryan....dynamo is a good guy....he runs top sportsman....he's just messing with you....

He remembers way back when they were legal....

I don't think our SS car is quite fast enough.....lol

No worries! It actually sounds like we are on the same page.

I just don't see how a center steer altered is any different than a left hand steer roadster. Doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see an advantage.

Rick Bailey 12-15-2011 08:33 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
I just don't see how a center steer altered is any different than a left hand steer roadster. Doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see an advantage.



Dont go there Ryan, now you'll have altereds wanting to run sg............ lol. Finney would then get to chase.......... lol

Rick

Nitro Joe Jackson 12-18-2011 11:05 AM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
I thought we already had a Top roadster class, its called SG, Iroc Gas, lol just a few door cars filling in.
Myself I wish the rules would be changed that SG had to be roofed and working doors ect.
Yes i only had open bodied cars when i raced but this has got crazy on the open roofless funny cars in SG.

Tom Joseph 12-18-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Bailey (Post 299130)
I just don't see how a center steer altered is any different than a left hand steer roadster. Doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see an advantage.



Dont go there Ryan, now you'll have altereds wanting to run sg............ lol. Finney would then get to chase.......... lol

Rick

Here's where it gets kinky! If one of those altereds wants to run SG then they'll need to take it to the chassis shop and have "Roll BarGussetts" welded in so they can slow down 2 or 3 seconds. This remains one of NHRA'S brighter rules. Ever think about that? They can run 6's without the gussets but we have to have them at 9.90...go figure. TS cars all have to have doors and roofs.

Rick Bailey 12-18-2011 05:50 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Tom, as for the gussets, I'm not really sure why they became mandatory other than the stories of the cages failing/ collapsing and maybe thats due do the cage not being on center.

Maybe some engineers could chime in here....



Rick

Jeff Beckman 12-20-2011 11:25 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Dragsters and center steer roadsters main hoop general align with a down tube in the chassis. Most Roadsters are just setting on top and are not tied into both sides. The older side steer roadsters with real tall cages were coming off on roll overs and killing drivers, the gussets make fair sense to me. I'm not a tech guy but this is my understanding. 2cents

Adger Smith 12-20-2011 11:46 PM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
As Jeff said the usual left steer roadster had a frame that was a system of hoops with the cage sitting on top. Since they were off center it appears that in crashes they were getting twisted off, along with the driver's head and upper body. Even the well built left steer roadsters, Cage hoop running all the way to the lower frame rails, is required to put in the little gussets. There is daylight and dark difference in the center steer alterteds and left steer roadsters. The new Vette bodies are way more aero and the old 27's are like a wing flying upside down. Bad areo. They have no place in TS if you ask me. That is just an accident waiting to kill someone. Yes, I feel I can speak as an authority on left steer roadster. I'm a left steer roadster owner and a survivor of another one that crash @ 154 mph. (Vinny's Comp World champ car)

CBS 12-21-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Amen...Adger...


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