Originally Posted by Jeff Colvert (Post 247544)

Thanks ED, If I could just keep a tranny in it for more than four runs in a row I might be able to race. I belive now I do remember a posting from NHRA about those combos a year or so ago. Senior moment I guess. Still thought they had to produce so many in a year to be legal. Can't keep up with all this new stuff.

Originally Posted by SuperStockDodge (Post 247696)

Jeff, are you running a Jerico or a G-force currently?

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 247646)

Shouldn't the question be more about the underfactored part than anything? There aren't going to be many more high HP cars released from factory in a high rate of production so I think it would be senseless for us to argue that. With the gas consumption phenomena, its just not going to happen unless its a very low HP combo. Special order cars are probably the closest we will get to any of the muscle cars of yesteryear. I think the focus should remain with getting car factored more correctly.

On a side note, I see that none of the new ford guys wanted to show their full potential but it was obvious they knew how to use the brakes lol.



Oh yeah I've got a solution for fixing the fords and dodges. Somebody who passionately believes that the cars need be refactored should by a DP and a CJ. Tune them all the way up, go to a race and run them all the way out. After 3 or 4 events of that, things will be adjusted and you could sell the cars, problem solved lol! This way, you don't have to wait on NHRA to change it, you could just change it yourself lol! Now, you guys just need to pool the money and decide on a driver. Haha, this would make alot of people happy and alot of people mad but I would love to see it happen.

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 247708)

um there's a 556hp caddy, a 556hp camaro next year, a 660hp mustang, and a 638 hp vette ( plus a 505hp Z06). What the hell are you talking about?

Originally Posted by cutta (Post 247715)

I don't think racers should expect for race ready cars like the CJ's and DP's to be street available cars. The times we live in will not allow for cars such as the "Thunderbolt or Hemi Darts/Cudas" to be manufactured as street available cars or in high production numbers in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 247719)

The cars you speak of were put in Super stock, not Stock Eliminator. You've illustrated perfectly the point I've been making for about 3 years now. Thanks. The basic premise of Stock Eliminator is, or actually, was, that the cars legal for the class were originally street legal production cars. That was the entire point of the class, NOT having one off trick purpose built race cars in the class. That's why they put those Hemi Darts and Cudas in Super Stock from day one, and why the rest of these factory race cars belong in Super Stock.

And in allowing those cars in Stock Eliminator, NHRA has completely changed the character and premise of the class, and effectively rendered everything else obsolete. Now they can and will allow any manufacturer that they want to add a new paper combination whenever they want. Because they do not have to produce the cars anymore, they just have to add paper to a catalog. They can create, on paper, a new combination any time they want. It's a completely unsustainable business model that is directly contrary to the best interests of the class.

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 247761)

Let's not forget that if you walk into a dealership and buy and new street legal Mustang or Challenger you wont be able to race it in stock. CJ's and DP's only, How does this help the factory's sell more car's?....................


NHRA, Put the real car's in guides with real HP factors.