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NewHemi 09-10-2010 08:48 PM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
He was also wrong when he said "Remember, these cars are factory produced by Ford and Mopar with all the race equipment, including drivetrain, to go to the track and win."

Ford may send their cars about ready for the track, but the Drag Paks come with "some assembly required" so it takes a lot of work by the owner, (at least in our case)

But I think it shows he could do a bit more homework.

And I will continue to remind you all that Drooze said these were capacle of low 9s, to high 8s and he got ridiculed and laughed at. And it looks like he was only pointing to the tip of the iceberg...;)

David
The New Hemi Guy

Toby Lang 09-10-2010 09:34 PM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NewHemi (Post 209590)
He was also wrong when he said "Remember, these cars are factory produced by Ford and Mopar with all the race equipment, including drivetrain, to go to the track and win."

Ford may send their cars about ready for the track, but the Drag Paks come with "some assembly required" so it takes a lot of work by the owner, (at least in our case)

But I think it shows he could do a bit more homework.

And I will continue to remind you all that Drooze said these were capacle of low 9s, to high 8s and he got ridiculed and laughed at. And it looks like he was only pointing to the tip of the iceberg...;)

David
The New Hemi Guy


Well, to be fair he didn't say you could take one straight from the dealer to the track and win. He said they are produced with all the race equipment.

Which car do you think would take less work to get into the 9s in Stock Eliminator: A bone stock 69 Camaro or a DP?


-Toby

Jim Wahl 09-10-2010 10:54 PM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Well, for what it's worth, I think with the exception of a couple of things, this article was Dead On! Thanks Jok. Jim

RULER 09-11-2010 01:22 AM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
It was a great article and the little points that are being attacked are by the people that support these cars and once again you were DEAD ON, this needs to change soon the AHFS will not correct this in the next ten years. How is it that when a new model comes out like the 2010 CJ it recieved a lower HP rating that the under rated 2008 that had one 3.25 hit alreadyl. don't these two share the same engine?

Richard Grant 09-11-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Thanks Jok for writing an article that explains the problem many of us have with the new CJ's and DP's. Most of us are only asking for them to be placed in a seperate class until the HP numbers are nearer to the established combos. NHRA did the right thing when the LT1's, LS1's, etc. were dominating many stock classes. Let's hope it happens in this case also.

340Cuda 09-12-2010 10:14 AM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
I guess the last thing needed is more classes, but perhaps cars that are not naturally aspirated should be in another group of classes in both Stock and Super Stock. I may have missed it but I have not seen this suggested. Might be easier than FX

Those blown Fords have always been a problem. How many remember Parham and Payne? :-) However they probably did have to work harder to get where they were.

Bill

BlueOval Ralph 09-12-2010 11:58 AM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Parham and Payne? :-) 57 Ford 312 Ford as I remember Payne ended up at Ford Engineering sometime aroud 1970 to 1980??? I had run into hime as he lived in the Downriver area.

Dgal 09-12-2010 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 209877)
I guess the last thing needed is more classes, but perhaps cars that are not naturally aspirated should be in another group of classes in both Stock and Super Stock. I may have missed it but I have not seen this suggested. Might be easier than FX

Those blown Fords have always been a problem. How many remember Parham and Payne? :-) However they probably did have to work harder to get where they were.

Bill

That begs the question as to what you do with the Drag Paks? The FX class covers both cars and eventual GM offerings.

Don

340Cuda 09-13-2010 09:18 PM

Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dgal (Post 209929)
That begs the question as to what you do with the Drag Paks? The FX class covers both cars and eventual GM offerings.

Don

A very good point, however I think they (DPs) could be more easier factored and policed than the blown cars.

Bill

art leong 09-13-2010 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Parker (Post 209534)
DP and CJ are all bogus. Art, don't you run a bogus combo. I look at what people have done with the other cars they have run. Can not make them run, but now they are top qualifiers. Yea right. Most of us have worked hard on our cars and made them run good. We do not relie on NHRA for a soft HP rating. And that is the trruth, like it or not!!!!!!!

Yeah I've always run "bogus combos" 1970 RT Challenger convertible (hemi), 1987 Dodge Shadow turbo I. (Real bogus they only made milliuons of them LOL) 1991 Dodge Spirit ES (another rare find LOL)
And last but not least the rareest of them all a Dodge Neon. Do you realize the only way you could get one was to buy it. You had to be one of those special people with real money."The inhumanity of it all"

LOL LOL


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