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ken

I don't guess we have ever met, but its nice to see you are feeling better!
Hope all turns out well.

Jim

I have to admit that I kind of agree with you, if NHRA is not going to do the right thing about putting the correct HP on these cars(I ain't talking about 4 hp at a time), we might as well just use shoe polish when we get a heads up run. It is really a sorry state of affairs when something that is so obvious is completely ignored by the people who are suppose to be in charge. Greg you were a little off about Lack of integrity.......Complete Loss of integrity would have been better!

I really used to get pumped up about going to a National event that was running Class. Now, if you have an older Stocker, it really is like taking a knife to a gun fight. Its like stealing, plain and simple. I really don't blame the people who have the new cars, hell I would love one, but I don't have 100K to "invest" right now(or ever will). I have raced NHRA for longer than I care to remember. Always enjoyed myself, met a lot of people who became close friends and really had a great time.

Now Its beginning to smell.........

I for one have cut back on my participation at NHRA National events and I don't seem to be alone.

RJ

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This also applies to ss/aa & ba. The mustangs are only going get faster quickly and Armstrow has busted his azz to get where he is at. It is a shame. I'm glad I'm not spending anymore money on class racing. Back to no box where it is much cheaper.

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[QUOTE=mannymen; I'm glad I'm not spending anymore money on class racing. Back to no box where it is much cheaper.[/QUOTE]

But not nearly as much fun !

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Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli (Post 207499)

Mike,

Bad as I hate to say it, IMO they should just go to no heads up in the eliminator.

count me in !

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Originally Posted by Ken Etter (Post 207524)

After seeing the potential of the challengers in G/SA I drove my G/SA into a wall!! J/K couldnt resist.

ROFLMAO.....Glad to see your sense of humor is still intact Ken. Hope your feeling better and we will see you soon.

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Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 207535)

JIm I'm sorry to see that you are at that point. I never cared for the AHFS but we are stuck with it. One change to it would really help with the HP problems. Don't stop at 3.25 % for any runs greater than 1.25. At 1.35 under have it go to 4.25% and any runs greater than 1.45 gets 5.25%. Any runs greater than 1.55 gets 6.25 and so on. And any one that runs more than 1.75 under should have to buy dinner for every racer at the track. Because we know they must have more money than brains. Just my thoughts Barry

Good idea. To those that are "throwing the towel in" and stating heads-up runs should be eliminated; perhaps you are falling right into the trap that has been set!
Some of you must think there are enough DP & CJ's to make heads-up runs at every Divisional and National event on the circuit. Heck, some of you , make that a lot of you, run and hide on the potential of a heads-up run with two '68 Camaro's. You cower at that so yea, obviously a DP/CJ will scare you right out of racing.
I know just like everybody else that these cars are under factored. But they are here to stay and eventually the ego's will have them factored into normality. Look at Indy...I applaud their ego's! It will catch up to them as it always has.

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RJ,

Maybe more like taking a stick to a gun fight or a butter knife.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 207582)

I can't help but agree with Jeff....we've all known for over a year how much potential these cars have, and this is the first time there have been this many of them at the same race...running to the finish line. Yes, it sucks for the guys that didn't make the field; yes, it sucks that it's probably going to take awhile to get the factoring / reclassification / whatever in place to even things back out, but how bad would it have sucked to see all these guys race to 1000' like many thought would happen. They're just plain blowing the NHRA's cover with all these outrageous runs - in my humble opinion, this had to happen for ANY remedy to ever see the light of day.

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Jeff the problem that has been pointed out, is that it will take 10 to 20 years to correct them i don't know how long some are willing to wait but it will not fix itself in the next 5 years for sure.

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Greg,

You are right on the money. The bad part about this situation, is the nhra is a 501 (c)(6) not for profit organization; aka Compton and Company. As a not for profit, nhra is prohibited from certain activities if they want to receive the benefit of millions of OUR tax dollars. And some how the nhra executives have created a rogue outfit that spends nearly all of it's time outside of the exempt organization confines. A very bright light will soon shine on them. I sincerely hope they enjoy it.

One other point, neither the ahfs or any other committee or gadget can fix this mess with the new cars. nhra is badly broken and needs to be fixed - from the top down!