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Mark Yacavone 03-03-2009 02:33 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomslik (Post 108480)
it'll give some seat time until i can get a 290/4speed combo put together?
and it's already in the car...;)


The 290 doesn't look too bad at 210hp. I wasn't sure about the 4 speed. You can run it it L, seeing you already have a bar (cage?).

I really don't see the 6 cylinder running the index in Q/Stock.
How about it, Tom Goldman?

Dwight Southerland 03-03-2009 03:37 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 108246)
I went back to the rulebook and couldn't find this.Robert Swartz

I was wrong, you are correct. Brain bloat or something.

Tom keedle 03-03-2009 04:10 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 108484)
The 290 doesn't look too bad at 210hp. I wasn't sure about the 4 speed. You can run it it L, seeing you already have a bar (cage?).


not yet , i don't...

I really don't see the 6 cylinder running the index in Q/Stock.
How about it, Tom Goldman?


thought the 2bbl 290s were 200 horse and the 4bbl's were 225....
i could be wrong.

Ed Fernandez 03-03-2009 05:50 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomslik (Post 108489)
thought the 2bbl 290s were 200 horse and the 4bbl's were 225....
i could be wrong.

NHRA took 15HP off the combo.Trust me,you would not be happy with the 232 3 speed drivetrain.
Dwight,CRS is a bitch isn't it?

Ed

Tom Goldman 03-03-2009 06:15 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 108484)
The 290 doesn't look too bad at 210hp. I wasn't sure about the 4 speed. You can run it it L, seeing you already have a bar (cage?).

I really don't see the 6 cylinder running the index in Q/Stock.
How about it, Tom Goldman?

Mark, I'd be very impressed if it ran under the index in Q ....Even at 2800#. ..... This combo is lower in compression and cam lift than a 258 like Ed F's combo that runs in T., altho the ports are much larger on the earlier heads .....On the plus side ,I guess you could run a 4 speed T-10 in it and not use 4th gear, that would at least give some strength not found in the 3 speed. ....The 290 combo is the sweet one ,only 2900# in K,3005 in L, only as a 4 speed with the 4 barrel in '67 ..Billy Nees has been pestering me to build one of them for years. If Billy likes it ,is got to be good!
.....Tom

Mark Yacavone 03-03-2009 06:35 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 108503)
Mark, I'd be very impressed if it ran under the index in Q ....Even at 2800#. ..... This combo is lower in compression and cam lift than a 258 like Ed F's combo that runs in T., altho the ports are much larger on the earlier heads .....On the plus side ,I guess you could run a 4 speed T-10 in it and not use 4th gear, that would at least give some strength not found in the 3 speed. ....The 290 combo is the sweet one ,only 2900# in K,3005 in L, only as a 4 speed with the 4 barrel in '67 ..Billy Nees has been pestering me to build one of them for years. If Billy likes it ,is got to be good!
.....Tom

I think so too... What is the carb rated at? Bigger cam and carb than a 283 and 10 less horse ...hmmm
Not exactly a 10 cent car ..as Billy would say..

Tom keedle 03-03-2009 07:40 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 108500)
NHRA took 15HP off the combo.Trust me,you would not be happy with the 232 3 speed drivetrain.
Dwight,CRS is a bitch isn't it?

Ed

yep, you're right on both counts, i didn't read ALL the page and i prolly wouldn't like the 6 in it BUT, as i said, it might be fun until i get a 290 built.... and i'm leaning towards the 4bbl version and it HAS to be a 4 speed....

Jeff Lee 03-04-2009 01:10 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Under FRAME it allows joining of factory front / rear subframes in Stock. No mention of roll-bar.

It is interesting that AMC provided subframe connectors on the '68-'69 Rambler. I've been told it was for the V-8 only.
From what I've seen, a 343 Typhoon V-8 Rogue with a factory T-10 4-speed and 3.54 rear gears (or steeper) could hold it's own in a street race back in the day! I would guess headers, a Holley 750 w/ an aluminum intake and 4.10 gears with 7" slicks could add up to a high 13 second street car.
I once had a '69 AMX that had a bone stock 343 with a 4-speed,
3.54's and street tires. It was good for 96 MPH in the 1/4.

Tom keedle 03-04-2009 01:29 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 108578)
Under FRAME it allows joining of factory front / rear subframes in Stock. No mention of roll-bar.

It is interesting that AMC provided subframe connectors on the '68-'69 Rambler. I've been told it was for the V-8 only.





From what I've seen, a 343 Typhoon V-8 Rogue with a factory T-10 4-speed and 3.54 rear gears (or steeper) could hold it's own in a street race back in the day! I would guess headers, a Holley 750 w/ an aluminum intake and 4.10 gears with 7" slicks could add up to a high 13 second street car.
I once had a '69 AMX that had a bone stock 343 with a 4-speed,
3.54's and street tires. It was good for 96 MPH in the 1/4.

i've got a 69 2dr sedan that's got 'em.
it was a 6 cyl/auto car....

DonatoEng 03-06-2009 11:12 PM

Re: subframe connectors and stock class Q
 
I'd go with the 290, 4bbl combo. Don't forget to check the supersession listing on heads and block before you build the engine.


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