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MR DERBY CITY 05-25-2016 05:13 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Biondo (Post 504386)
After using TruSTART at both Spring Fling events (Vegas and Bristol), I am very happy with both how it performed and with the racer feedback. After watching it in action, I am going to say that 85 to 90% of the racers gave positive feedback.

Thanks to Bob @ Compulink and Jeff @ LVMS for helping it to become a reality.

Peter

A big THANK YOU to Peter and Kyle.......

Michael Beard 05-25-2016 08:24 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 504312)
Micheal: Were your stats based on a true start tree race or a race where the faster car got the bye? It will make a difference.

Casey

They were based on existing, standard tree events, as TruStart has only been used at the two Spring Fling events.

4406mopar 06-10-2016 05:47 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Two Englishtown stock racers may like trustart about now.

Bob Shaw 06-10-2016 06:38 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
I'm sure Great Bend runner up is a trustart fan now also.

7423 06-10-2016 08:38 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Oh yeah................Tex Miller ought to be thrilled.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
1656 Kenneth Miele 1351 Tex Miller
E1 ****WINNER**** -0.041 8.735 154.67 -0.002 10.863 122.67
FS/XX Dial: 8.70 (+/-): 0.035 E/SA Dial: 10.89 (+/-): -0.027
Qualified: #7 8.685 -1.215 #44 10.843 -0.857
Miller went red. Miele will move on to the second round tomorrow.

When will NHRA wake up???????????

Ken Miele 06-10-2016 09:34 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
TrueStart is a must if your looking for fairness. No way did I earn that round. Tex had a way better package then me. In my opinion he was holding just the right amount and with a near perfect light he would have put me on the trailer, even if I was green. I did an absolutely terrible job and don't deserve that round win. I guess I'm just one of those fast guys in the minority that think TrueStart time has come.

Bernie Cunningham 06-11-2016 12:07 AM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Kenny, did ya see his red? I believe that makes a difference in the equation so it's impossible to include that data for a debate.
Hell yeah, I'm for it, no worries!

fredjohnston 06-11-2016 09:57 AM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 506132)
TrueStart is a must if your looking for fairness. No way did I earn that round. Tex had a way better package then me. In my opinion he was holding just the right amount and with a near perfect light he would have put me on the trailer, even if I was green. I did an absolutely terrible job and don't deserve that round win. I guess I'm just one of those fast guys in the minority that think TrueStart time has come.

Why would you apologize or say you didn't deserve to win that round?You won that round under current rules (which will probably stay this way until we are all gone). Now go ahead and win the race even if you get 6 more red lights by your opponents and you red light 6 times right behind them, you win!

bill dedman 06-11-2016 05:21 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
I posted on this method, long before it was called TRUSTART several years ago, and asked that same question, repeatedly, usuallly, with nothing but ridicule from Ed Fernandez, who, although he ran a car in a "slow" class and would have benefitted from the change, was steadfastly against it.

Finally, one person suggested that that the first car to leave, enjoying the benefits of a "clean tree," would have that as an advantage and the first red light system as it still exists, would be an equalizing factor.

Other than that, NOBODY ever gave me any legitimate reason. why it should not be changed.

NOBODY,..

And I beat this drum for months... probably years. Long enough that even ~I~ got tired of it. So, I gave up...

It never had any kind of positive response from the people on this board (except for Jim Wahl and a couple more,) until Peter Biondo and Kyle Seipel recently suggested the very same thing.

I was gratified when they did.

As an aside, the whole concept that is TRUSTART came from a bracket racer in Fremont, California (definitely not ME,) named Bob Mikulic. He raced superchaged Studebakers... He explained it to me in detail (I didn't "get it",) back in the 1990's...

It finally sunk in...

Ken Miele 06-11-2016 07:22 PM

Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 506144)
Kenny, did ya see his red? I believe that makes a difference in the equation so it's impossible to include that data for a debate.
Hell yeah, I'm for it, no worries!



Hey Bernie, I wish I could have used it as an excuse. I was leaving early no matter what Tex did.


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