YEP BAGWELL AND RICHARD GRIFFIN[:-smilearound-:]

sean ward
stk# 2882

The Boyles, Warren and Boertman crowd win hands down over today's hot dogs. Those guys had true panache. There was a boatload of unique character in their cars and them.

Nothing against the Biondo, Fletcher, or Richardsons, but the excitement just isn't there. As odd as it might sound, it's boring watching them win. And so many of those cars today are such yawners.

Was it 1976 at Bowling Green when Bagwell ran Jack Mullins in a final? THAT.....was SS racing at its best.

Richardson versus Fletcher? Who cares.

Boertman versus Boyles? You'll be on the edge of your seat.

Boertman versus Behemoth 3 times in final of one points meet in Div 3. Best 2 of 3 Boertman. NO ONE LEFT THAT RACE.
It was the time and the level of driving . everyone was foot braking. They were all class racers....from day one.

Dick Butler 3529

Mike Boyles won with A 4 speed and Pro Handicap Tree, You didn't see three bulbs in those days! If you ever tried it ITS TUFF. Bobby Warren was also in that group and is still DARN good. Very difficult to compare to today. Bertozzi, Fletch, Biondo are as good as they come current day. My opinion with almost 40 years of losing to all of them a number of times!!!

Steven Johnson
Super Stock Grand AM

I'm torn between Jack Mullins and Buddy Ingersol!

Mark Yacavone
Blue Streak Promotions
Old and In The Way

Jim Wabiel

my vote is bobby warren-complete racer and a real gentleman to boot-there were ne electronics when he was inhis prime- biggg

YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON A GOOD TIME

BEFORE YOU GUYS GET CARRIED AWAY.......SOME OF THOSE YOU HAVE MENTIONED HAVE BOUGHT ROUNDS....THAT IS A KNOWN FACT.....I HOPE THEY WILL EXCLUDE THEMSELVES FROM ANY RECOGNITION.

Rusty D.

Some of them probably smoked cigarettes, drank booze and chased women too.

For Elisha - 47 years and counting!

Something wrong with not being counterfeit ????

Rusty D.

What about Don Nicholson? or Jimmy DeFrank? or . . . . ?

There are LOTS of good racers that need recognition. It's kind of like picking the most beautiful woman in the world. You could get general agreement on the top 10%, but beyond that there is lots of talk. Today's winner won't make the top 10 tomorrow. Who is the greatest baseball player? - same deal.


My personal favorite is Bobby Warren, like so many others here. Smart, dedicated, polite and respectful, and a winner.

In no particluar order:
- Bobby Warren
- Dave Boertman
- John Lingenfelter

The Three Kings, in my book.

On a Bracket Race site ....The late Steve Taylor was supposed to be the best and a legend. No mention of him here. Boertman/Lingenfelter. Have to ask this question, was the racer great for the time he raced or did the time make him a great racer??

I forgot my password , but by far my votes go to Ronnie " the King" Sox and Bobby West Warren. And yes Mike Beard he is still alive. Another was Lee shepherd, now there is a man that could shift a car!! These guys are all true gentlemen and did it with no bells and whistles. They did it with some bad-***** driving!
Wendy Carr

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Mike Carr
Buff Daddy Motorsports
Enon Valley PA
IHRA Stock 18 HF/SA
IHRA 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile HF/SA Nat'l Record Holder
NHRA Stock 1302 DF/S
Street ET/Street Automatic/Modified/No-Box/Pro HX18
President, Tri-State Stock/Super Stock Association
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I don't think Lee ever drove a Stock or SS car.

Bertozzi,Biondo, Fletcher, DeFrank,Jeff Talyor, G Stanfield, Warren, don't forget about Jeggie either.

Sorry Dwight, I guess I got so excited talking about my favorite drivers that I threw in a modified guy. I"m getting so old I guess I already forgot the topic LOL ...Wendy Carr

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Mike Carr
Buff Daddy Motorsports
Enon Valley PA
IHRA Stock 18 HF/SA
IHRA 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile HF/SA Nat'l Record Holder
NHRA Stock 1302 DF/S
Street ET/Street Automatic/Modified/No-Box/Pro HX18
President, Tri-State Stock/Super Stock Association
Comp Forum Webmaster
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>> Bobby West Warren. And yes Mike Beard he is still alive.

Sorry - took the note wrong in the interview. ;-(


Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Since I am stuck up here in the mountains of Division 6, I usually only get to see Div 6 and 7 racers. I would have to say the DeFranks and Jeff Lane are at the top of my list. Jeff Lane does more with less money than ANY racer in ANY class than I heve ever seen. If he does not have it he will make it. Watch out Super Stock racers, word on the street is that Jeff Lane will be back in SS next year without the Comp car to worry about. Dan Flethcer is also one sweet driver to watch though. Was I supposed to pick one driver? It must be the thin air!

67 S Code

Where's the Ed Obrian list?

"The future isn't what it used to be."

In no particular order, I would tend to go back to "back in the day" to pick my choices for Super Stock Driver. again no in any given order 1. Steve Bagwell, 2. Butch Leal, 3. Dick Landy, 4. John Lingenfelter, 5. Claude Urevig/Berne Agaman , 6. Mike Keown, 7.Judy Lilly......... Just too many to choose 1. myron stutes

MYRONARL1119

I`m kinda leanin` toward Val Hedworth

Div 6 Fan,

"Jeff Lane" and "Less Money" are not words I would have necessarily put together in my head-LOL.

He is a good racer, and his stuff is top notch. The new car will be beautiful, just as his past cars have been, I'm sure.

He certainly sits as one of the Div 6 heavy hitters-in whatever class he runs.

Jeff Goss
6990 SS/MA

Mr Goss, I certianly did not want to give the impression that Jeff lane did not spend money. What I really wanted to emphasize is that what Jeff Lane does (consistantly finished in the top 10 in the nation in every class that he runs), he does so without the advantages that many other drivers have.
A few examples would be:
1. Jeff does not work in the automotive or racing industry and thus does not benifit from the R&D or the feedback from clients (Peter Biondo).
2. He is able to accomplish what he accomplishes without a sponsor (Jerry Emmons, Dan Fletcher).
3. He does not have a teammate to share data with (DeFrank Brothers).
4. He does not tour the country attending 20 races a year that would allow him to act as a "blocker" in other divisions (Dan Fletcher, Jerry Emmons).
Without the benefit of any of the above mentioned items Jeff Lane is consistantly at or near the top in his division and in the top 10 in the nation of the all of the classes that he runs whether it be Stock, SS or Comp. He is a multiple National Event and Jeg's All Star winner. He does this with an all volunteer team on a limited budget. He works out of a steel building next to his house in a very small town in Washington (not exactly the racing hub of the nation). A talented driver that runs a limited schedule on a limited budget with an all volunteer team and consistantly runs with or beats the top "semi-professional" teams in the nation.
I am not old enough to have seen many of the drivers mentioned in the other posts and I am certian that if they are mentioned that you better believe that they are worthy of the praise that they have been given. There are many excellent shoes in the sportman ranks that go without the praise that they deserve. I am just sticking up for the little guy in lowly Division 6.
By the way, if any of you ever see him in the pits do not be afraid to walk up to him and say hello. You will not meet a nicer, smarter more generous guy. Wow, I sound like the president of the Jeff Lane Fan Club. I should be getting paid for this.




67 S Code

Accusing me of strealing? WTF? dude - you're plenty f.u. saying **** like that to me.

Would the truth shut you up? or are you convinced your accusations stand tall? And don't gimmie no **** about con-artists. Maybe one will come your way and lift money outa your crying ***. THEN let some unknown one sided bull****ter like you make a public statement like that.

Yeah, stop over Ed.

















Drag racers are like tooth picks.

When I read the first post,the 2 names that came to my mind immediatly were Bobby Warren and Dave Boertman.

Nautilus Racing

damn ED... short fuse ??

IF you owned your own business im betting there would be a long list of unhappy customers you told to f*** off ???

bomber only asked to see your list of best of alltime... NEVER ACCUSING YOU of being on the list anyway... probably because you often offer DIFFERENT views of the world than most of us clowns

i assume bashing someone you've never met means "you've had a nice day"

jack

best SS racer... lingenfelter, hedworth, and there was this little sucker, i think they called him grumpy

ALONG WITH WARREN,LINGENFELTER,FLETCHER ALSO ADD JIM BOUDREAU

Accusing people of the unknown is what Ed's known for. Having zero proof to back up your claims too. You've called Fletcher - Biondo - cheaters, liars, guess I'm in good company. Thanks!!

As soon as you find ONE of these poor souls I stole from why don't you send them over. I want to repent.

Drag racers are like tooth picks.

Anyone that lies on this site to help you out will only be looked at like everyone already looks at you. Anyone that really knows me knows you're full of it.

So don't make another witless come back and have a nice day visiting all of my friends at Fontana.


Drag racers are like tooth picks.

Somene voted for my dad Jim waibel I want to thank you very much I am still learning all about mt dads caree I knew he was big in Jr. stock and stock but never realy new he ran SS I knew that buddy ingrosoll's blue and white olds was origanily dad's Thank you again


Jeremy Waibel
K&N B/SA 69 camaro
2231

Bobby Warren, Dan Fletcher, Jim Boburka

I'm "up here" in Div.6 also,,not sure what thin air you're in, in Seattle. Maybe Queen Anne hill LOL! Anyhow down here in Tacoma at sea level, I can remember many very good Superstock racers from this division over the years like Dave Wren (for the Mopars) Jim Van Cleve Sr. and Jr. (for the Fords) and two of my favorite Chevy teams were the 66 Nova of Jim Parsons and Terry Harmon and the Han**** and Lane cars. Jim Waldo was a record setting SS racer before he and his sons got into Stock. Just a few of my picks from back in the day up here in the great NW. Now a days you have to give a nod to Jody Lang for the success hes' had on a national scale.
My 2 cents,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Danny Durham

Not sure what happened to the name I was typing. I know I typed it correctly so what gives Administrator? I want to give credit where credit is due. I'm talking about the Han**** and Lane Superstock team from the NW in the 70s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thank you. Danny Durham

Well you did it again,,, I guess censorship reigns supreme on this sight when you're not allowed to spell a man's name correctly.
Whats up with this? Danny Durham

Jeff is a good racer, but no way is he low budget

Compared to Jeff Lane guys like Mark Faul and Jody Lang are way more low buck. They win just as many races and finish in the top ten just as often. Their money spent to money won ratio is probably a lot better. Guys like Randall Kline, Jody Lang, Tibor Kidar and a lot more are low budget racers.

Since when is Comp low budget?

But i'd have to say Biondo, Bertozzi, Fletcher and Taylor. But i'm young.

Even though I never got to see him drive, I'd have to vote for Ray Allen based on everything I've heard from my father.

Re: Best Super Stock Racer Of All Time!
 

Bobby Warren.