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MR DERBY CITY 03-18-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 677521)
If you don't remember, Dave was fined for stopping on the track. Maybe stopping on the track isn't the best idea to prove a point.

Duane, sometimes desperate times require desperate measures ….how many times can a reasonable racer spend the time and $$ only to spin on a **** track. I don’t know who … nolongerracing is….BUT I like his style.

Dan Bennett 03-18-2023 04:20 PM

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It's been quite a while since I've covered a race and had a chance to listen to conversations in the tower and in staging/starting line areas. I saw this situation maybe 5 or 6 times during all the races I covered.

Different staff back then, but I always heard the same thing - "If you don't want to race, fine. Don't race. There are plenty others who will be happy to take your place."

I firmly believe the NHRA has changed for the worse in the things they believed important, but this is not a recent thing. It should have been solved somehow years ago.

As for the Greg Anderson complaint, I seem to remember it was at Columbus about a very suspect left lane. He got the standard reply until one car ended up on its roof, a couple of others had near misses before anything was done.

GUMP 03-18-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 677539)
They seem to be spending lots of time prepping the track today ...

I'm very happy to see this. It should be the norm...

tstickff 03-18-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 677542)
I'm very happy to see this. It should be the norm...

Guess they just didn’t want to “prep” yesterday huh? They are prepping the **** out of it today…..too little to late for me

1347 03-18-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 677540)
Duane, sometimes desperate times require desperate measures ….how many times can a reasonable racer spend the time and $$ only to spin on a **** track. I don’t know who … nolongerracing is….BUT I like his style.

nolongerracing has a great idea, but not for him to do,only to suggest someone else to do. Wonder who will chip in to pay the couple thousand dollar fine like I believe David got?

BG56 03-18-2023 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 677534)
How many years has its been when Greg Anderson pleaded with the officials at the top end of a race track not to send cars down and then the next pair one crashed. I think they then called the race. after that. Same thing in Wild horse another time. Tom

I believe that was at Charlotte where V.Gaines was the one on his roof...

Ken Miele 03-18-2023 06:23 PM

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We are done for the day, racing resumes tomorrow. I have mix feelings today about track conditions. They worked on the all morning and into the afternoon. After the Juniors ran, they worked on the track for a good 45 minutes. Dragging and spraying the track. I had my best 60ft of the weekend and the racers I talked to said it was better. The questions is... if they could make the track better today, why couldn't they do it yesterday. Anyway, thanks to the crew for todays track prep.

TOSTO RACING 03-18-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 677548)
nolongerracing has a great idea, but not for him to do,only to suggest someone else to do. Wonder who will chip in to pay the couple thousand dollar fine like I believe David got?

Some one with some balls.

$2000 fine is cheaper than trying to replace a 75k stocker.


Or we can just complain more that seems to be working.

NHRA could give two ****s what we think!

Stick together and stuff gets done, one person can't change anything. What if everyone would have loaded there cars up and left???

Just more reasons we need to support races like Tyler's, Kens, Bo's,etc

Pistol Pete 03-18-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING (Post 677552)
Some one with some balls.

$2000 fine is cheaper than trying to replace a 75k stocker.


Or we can just complain more that seems to be working.

NHRA could give two ****s what we think!

Stick together and stuff gets done, one person can't change anything. What if everyone would have loaded there cars up and left???

Just more reasons we need to support races like Tyler's, Kens, Bo's,etc

It wouldn’t have mattered if everyone loaded up & left, NHRA got there $$$
when the racers rolled in on Thurs & Friday and payed already.
Probably have to pay online when you enter at some divisional’s too.

TOSTO RACING 03-18-2023 08:08 PM

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That's kind of my point if they keep getting there money why would they change anything. I don't know what the answer is ,but it sure sounds like there is a lot of unhappy people at the races.

Chris1529 03-18-2023 10:10 PM

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2024 rulebook might say stock spec tire size is 275 60 15 drag radials and super stock on 33 12.50 15 mud terrain LT radials. Sounds like that's what they are prepping the track for.

Ken Miele 03-19-2023 07:50 AM

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Good morning everyone, start time is 9:30... Junior's out first followed by Super Street and Stock for their 3rd round. Its cold this morning, current temp is 43, and only going up to the low 50's. I'm hitting the road today, I do have some more photos and will post when I get home. Its been a long 3 weeks on the road... good times posting for you all. Next race is the NMCA at Rockingham, NC April 14th-16th.

jmcarter 03-19-2023 09:04 AM

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May do the Rockingham race as well instead of Reynolds the following weekend. Will be interesting to see how the new surface works out and if enough people skip Reynolds then it might serve as a message to NHRA. Depends on weather to some extent, probably a factor in why more didn’t attend SGMP including myself.

4543 03-19-2023 09:47 AM

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My G/SA Corvette usually hooks on ice and never spun all weekend. That said It picked up .04 in 60’ after they prepped the track. Needless to say I missed the dial. Mike McMahan 2543 G/SA

PONTIAC'S REVENGE 03-19-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 677539)
They seem to be spending lots of time prepping the track today ...

Yes, thank you D2 tower for responding! 😎

Carguy49 03-19-2023 11:31 AM

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Thanks again Ken for all you do to keep us all informed about the races you attend.


Kudos to SGMP for addressing the traction problem at their track. It was a little late for some, but they listened to the comments and addressed the problem on Saturday and today.

Mike Pearson 03-19-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tstickff (Post 677547)
Guess they just didn’t want to “prep” yesterday huh? They are prepping the **** out of it today…..too little to late for me

Hi Tim
I had the same issue as you round one. Sorry you had a bad experience here in D2. I have been racing D2 for a long time and I can count on one hand the amount of times I have had traction problems at a D2 division race in recent years. . I don’t think it is a sign of the times. I don’t know if most know that SGMP is in the process of being sold so that could have had something to do with the lack of track prep. When I staged during round one I did not see any visible issues with the track. I was surprised when I spun and was a tenth off on my 60 ft time.

Casey Miles 03-19-2023 04:42 PM

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Am I missing something, but Marion Stevenson had a bye run in the 4th rd and then another bye in the semifinals. How is that possible and why doesn't the ladder get corrected so that there aren't any double byes? I have nothing against Marion, he's just racing the way NHRA tells him to.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

Jim Wahl 03-19-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 677593)
Am I missing something, but Marion Stevenson had a bye run in the 4th rd and then another bye in the semifinals. How is that possible and why doesn't the ladder get corrected so that there aren't any double byes? I have nothing against Marion, he's just racing the way NHRA tells him to.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

I believe one was a legal bye and the other was a broke bye. You can only have one legal bye but as many broke byes as fate gives them to you. Jim


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Tom Meyer 03-19-2023 06:56 PM

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I believe if you are #1 qualifier you could get two byes if there is say a 33 car field, it would go 33,17,9,5,3. Tom

Casey Miles 03-19-2023 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 677595)
I believe one was a legal bye and the other was a broke bye. You can only have one legal bye but as many broke byes as fate gives them to you. Jim


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I went to live timing, there were 9 cars coming back for rd 4, Marion got the bye. Then in rd 5, 3 cars were back for rd 6 and Marion got the bye again.

Casey Miles

Ken Miele 03-19-2023 08:45 PM

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Hey guys, more photos from Stock Q2...

Winners...
Stock Mark, Lewis over Marion Stephenson
Super Stock, Hugh Meeks over Robbie Butler

Ken Miele 03-19-2023 08:46 PM

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One more batch...

Ken Miele 03-19-2023 08:47 PM

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Super Stock Q2...

Ken Miele 03-19-2023 08:48 PM

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The Hawk 03-19-2023 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 677605)
I went to live timing, there were 9 cars coming back for rd 4, Marion got the bye. Then in rd 5, 3 cars were back for rd 6 and Marion got the bye again.

Casey Miles

The ladder is set after qualifying. Referring to my original Bernie Cunningham "Bonza" ladder book, number 19 qualifier in a 65 car field is slated to receive two laddered byes in eliminations. The ladder never changes after qualifying. This is where placing yourself comes in handy with one of the books!

Mark Yacavone 03-19-2023 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 677616)
The ladder is set after qualifying. Referring to my original Bernie Cunningham "Bonza" ladder book, number 19 qualifier in a 65 car field is slated to receive two laddered byes in eliminations. The ladder never changes after qualifying. This is where placing yourself comes in handy with one of the books!

Yep.. About 5-6 years ago, we had that set up at Wild Horse with the Monte. We got the first bye for no. 1 ..We went a few more but didn't make it far enough for the 5th bye.
First time I saw this was at the Indy Open about 25 years ago. I thought no, this can't be right...but it was.
There are only 4 earned byes in a 7 round race. Then, it goes back to the no. 1 car position again, if the numbers are right, contrary to what some believe.

Carguy49 03-20-2023 11:47 AM

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Looking for some varification.

The 71 Challenger that says Motown Missile - Gregg Luneack's old car correct.

The Black and White 70 GTX w/ graphics - Mike Loge's old car correct.

Thanks in advance.

jmcarter 03-20-2023 12:08 PM

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Correct on both Ron….and both in good hands.

Carguy49 03-20-2023 02:01 PM

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Good to know that both cars are in good hands. Thanks Jim.

Frank Castros 03-20-2023 03:53 PM

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Our great friend Wes Leopold Jr. won Competition Eliminator at SGMP this past weekend for his second win of this season, however the car was very badly damaged after passing the finish line at 164.55 MPH. The good news is after being cut from the car, taken to the hospital and released he's fine and on his way home to Pittsburgh.
God Bless!

BRETV 03-20-2023 04:46 PM

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Frank, Thanks for the update, I was wondering if he was okay and I hadn't seen anything. So glad all is well.






Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

jmcarter 03-20-2023 04:57 PM

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Saw on insidecompracing.com that he suffered a broken collar bone. He’s been putting together a great season so hope he can get healed and be able to repair the car. Great running car, just glad he wasn’t hurt worse.

noel t davis 03-23-2023 08:55 PM

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I think it was 1995 At Bristol I had first round bye for number 1 qualifier and then I had another bye in the semifinals I can’t remember how many cars. So I ran Jim Reynolds in the final and won but dropped a valve at the finish line. Had to be towed to scales and winners circle. Was just my day I guess.

Mark Yacavone 03-23-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by noel t davis (Post 677837)
I think it was 1995 At Bristol I had first round bye for number 1 qualifier and then I had another bye in the semifinals I can’t remember how many cars. So I ran Jim Reynolds in the final and won but dropped a valve at the finish line. Had to be towed to scales and winners circle. Was just my day I guess.

33 will do it.


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