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Randall, you are absolutely right and that is a real issue for most Racers. But we need to come up with some kind of a "happy medium" between tearing everybody down and the way tech, or the lack of it has been for the last few years

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Not a real problem as most races in Div 2 and 4 end on Saturday...even if scheduled to end on Sunday. TIC...well maybe.

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Billy
No idea on the t-5 to jerico. My cobra jets came with liberty trans as produced from ford motor co. Technology has come along ways in 30 plus years

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I wasn't referring to your "Factory Built" SS car that runs in Stock. what's the difference between Capt. Jack running a metric in his car vs. a G-force or a Liberty?

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Why do automatic stockers have buttons on the wheel?

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radio communication !

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I think that tear down should be apart of the participation of STK/SS racing. To this day I carry gaskets and the tools to take what ever the tech person wants to see. As far as no sleep, I can remember leaving the tear down barn at 9 pm and have to be ready to race 9 AM the next morning. BTW that was the days when we couldn't leave the vehicles at the track and you put it back together at the hotel. Maybe got 3 hours sleep and we used nothing but manual hand tools. It was the common knowledge that that is the way it was, too bad if you were on the barn list.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

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Good question, 2-step switch must be on the brake pedal.
Must be for the delay box.

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Tear down is already a part of the stock / super stock classes. Maybe not as much as you might like to see it. Maybe some of that reason is the age of the tech personnel and competitors. I know our tech director in D2 is well past 70 years old and putting in a long day of racing I doubt they would want to do a bunch of tear downs late into the night. This is also probably some of the reason people are not that interested in setting records like they used to be. They did some extensive tear down at indy and found very few infractions so I don't think there is rampant cheating going on these days.

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I've never known Harry to pass on a good teardown!

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Some guys have line-loc's there. My car was that way when we got it in 2017, but I've never driven one with it anywhere other than on the shifter so changed it before I ever drove it.

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I date back to the '60s and winner inspections were a regular weekend ritual at Milan. You might want to teardown repeat winners, but not every winner. Inspection, yes, teardown, maybe.


A lot can be checked without pulling the engine apart. Cam lift and compression are heads on check items. So are intake and carb mods. That level of inspection would help a lot and not leave a car in a pile of parts.


BTW I can't find post race inspections as a rule requirement.


This is a Stock thread, but an issue I have with SS is FWD conversion cars running in a "street car based" class. Maybe require GT cars to use an engine available for the body used without regards to the model year. 68 Camero with any year Camero engine. 70 Mustang with any year Mustang engine. Cobalt with any year Cobalt engine...Or just move FWD conversion cars to Comp. They are more like an Altered anyway after all the tube chassis work.

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As far as towing to the lanes. I think the fair rule would be that the car that is pitted the farthest away should be allowed to tow to there opponents pit and both cars need to be driven to the lanes from there. Then there is no advantage to the person with the up-close pit spot.

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With live feeds displaying RTs could this be radioed to driver?

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Should sportsman classes have radios?

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Harry is a great guy and we are lucky to have him in our division. I happened to see a post on facebook and saw his birthday and year and I was quite surprised to see what his age is. I can only hope that I would be in as good of shape and health when I reach his age. I can tell you I don't have the energy that I had at 30.
We are also lucky to have Dave Ley and his wife Gloria at our races at the beginning and end of our season. They are a great addition to the D2 team when they are down here

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I like that, good idea

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I had a 58mm Throttle Body left over from my 383" street engine. Wondered what it would be worth on my 350" SS engine. Track testing one day, I tried it. Was worth ZIP!.
Factory throttle body flows right at 750 CFM on my flow bench. Not many 350"s need more than that. Maybe I'm not making enough power to need more.

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No electric shifters unless the car originally came with an electronic TRANSMISSION.

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Since so many cars were available without radios, I would say no.

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Dave and Gloria are great people! Everyone should really be glad to have Dave give his time and effort to the racers with everything he has been through!

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I still don’t understand the comment about the lt1 and L98 throttle bodies?

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The entire L98 induction system was designed for the 305. If you have a 350 it will most likely make more power with a larger TB, and certainly would make more power with a ported base manifold which to my knowledge does not have any specs on it, except you aren't supposed to modify it......... There is a lot of junk in the way inside the plenum, but it would be damn obvious to remove any of it if someone knew what to look for. Bolting a 58mm TB on a stock plenum will do nothing, the plenum opening is sized for the stock TB.

Not sure about the plenum opening on the LT1.

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All of them, If that could be done! Wouldn’t that be nice!!!🤩💩

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I had a 58mm throttle body left over from my 383” LT4 street engine. My Hogan intake is big enough for that 58mm (1000 cam) throttle body. My super Stock LT1 runs no faster with that 1000 cfm throttle body than with the stock unit. That TB would be like putting a Holly Dominator carb on it. What sense would that make? Illegal, of course. Run quicker? Not likely. You are worrying about the wrong part. Some newbies may put one on “because it has to be faster.”

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I think Daran meant 2 way radios between the driver and crew on the starting line...

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Did the same test and saw absolutely nothing,throttle body doesn't seem to be the choke point.

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The NHRA funding the Tech. Dept. to enforce the rule book.

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Ya mean that he's not talking about my AM/FM? It's factory! How about my under-the-dash CB? Can I keep that?

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You have to keep the CB! An 8 track player is another bonus!
I Still have the Delco AM radio in the Skyhawk!

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What is a "POSITIVE MANOR" ? Is that an NHRA office building or a mansion on a hill ?:)

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Well we fit a 9" tire under a stock 66 Nova with no modifications, but it was a 26" tire.:confused:

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Probably should have said a 9 x 30 inch tire, ......Perhaps you had help from Charlie Brown and Linus massaging the quarter panels ?

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And LUCY helped too !:)

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What did Pigpen do ?? .....Did he help wash the car ??

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I very often get parked in the pits, down near the end of the shut down area. If you get to pit near the staging lanes, it’s no problem. What does a chiller in the staging lanes bother?

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Seems like it was Wesley, made a go/ no go gauge for throttle body checking. If you are used to looking at them, it is easy to see where the machining was done to enlarge one.

Just remembered: When mine was my daily driver, it had a 383” engine I built for it. A couple tenths quicker than it is as a Super Stocker. I had a 58mm (1000 cfm) throttle body on it. One time we were testing, I bolted it on my SS 350”. Did not run any quicker. The factory unit (750 cfm) is big enough. Sold the big one to a local kid.

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I would play the stereo in the staging lanes with the moon roof open in my 1987 Olds! 🤣😜 Good times!
Ho,ya and it would qualify in the top 10 most any place we went! That was fun!
Thank You; Tony Goodman!!

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The current rules don't allow one. It is one of those rules that is selectively enforced.

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Sorry, mis-typed that. Should have been manner? Damn, I was spelling like a trumpster. LMAO