Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 494629)

YES I can if I wanted to !!
Especially if retired and lots of money and time for travel.
Can hit IHRA races in Florida, Carolinas, PA, MD, OH, VA.
OWN a home in Florida and can put the car with trailer on the AutoTrain.
Did that a couple years ago driving the car to Bradenton from Orlando.
Then there are about 20 independent Races.
Can also race it in Brackets.

I am not bashing ...I am advocating !
Why are you so angry and negative?
Not giving up on what I think is right!

D

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 494345)

The announcement isn't really clear. Would the IHRA class cars be inspected and classed as NHRA cars or would NHRA be calling IHRA classes to the lanes?

Would IHRA cars have to cover their Association stickers?

Pure Stock running in Stock Elim? Crate Motor cars in SS/GT?

If they lumped everything IHRA and NHRA considered Stock together and used their respective index times, the car count could be good.

For the last couple of years the tracks in Washington State east of the mountains have been IHRA while the western tracks are NHRA. It's not that much of a haul.

Dale

Originally Posted by dan fahey (Post 494685)

yeah james...
I have been running stock since 1972.
My 69 impala is going through a restoration. So race my 1995 impala ss i bought new.
And
i did put my 1995 impala ss on the autotrain in lorton va and ran stock at bradenton proam and nitrojam in 2014. From sandford fl. Drove the car to the race put my racing tires on and competed. Raced ecirs since 2001 and stock since 2010 and drove it to all the races. After the race, back to street tires, pack and drive home.
Anyone who knows me can validate this is what i did to compete.

Only last year started using a trailer. Towing with a 1994 cusomized caprice wagon and featherlight trailer. From germantown md ran at empire two weekends row. Ihra and ecirs meets. Later competed another ecirs event at lebanon valley. Also ran several times at island dragway, cecil, mason dixon. Ran ihra meets at richmond, mir, pittsburgh. Then end of year ran tristate s/ss meet and came runner up.

Just learned that i can put my both cars and trailer on the autotrain.
Round trip costs about the same as driving, motel and food.
Think about it? Division 2 and division 1 races in same year. Less snow.

I race in two series almost won the ecirs championship. Lost championship by 12 points after winning 6 races in a row. Can run the ecsss and tristate except for time and schedules.

Drag racing is not my only passion. Also a certified soccer referee and work tournaments and weekend games. Last year ran 75 games. So got a busy schedule.
Oh did i mention i own an it company? 23 years in business.

So yes i guess i am rich!
Have three great kids, ok wife and former, wonderful friends, healthy, at 65 can still chase down a teenager, love my job and drag racing.

But you are rich too james !
Because i bet you are just as dedicated a racer and family guy as me!

D

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 494759)

It boils down to this...a forward thinking, bold spirited promoter whose glass is half full has "put up" what should be enough incentive to entice the most pessimistic among us to drag our stuff out, make this event a success, and potentially forge the beginning of a sustainable format. Some will tow across the continent to be here and there will be those who choose not to haul down the street - it's all about choice after all, and that is why there is justification for more than one 'HRA and the unique classes that populate each organization.

I just think it's cool that someone dares to envision a sandbox with room for everyone.... come and play or stay home - it's OK.

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 494759)

It boils down to this...a forward thinking, bold spirited promoter whose glass is half full has "put up" what should be enough incentive to entice the most pessimistic among us to drag our stuff out, make this event a success, and potentially forge the beginning of a sustainable format. Some will tow across the continent to be here and there will be those who choose not to haul down the street - it's all about choice after all, and that is why there is justification for more than one 'HRA and the unique classes that populate each organization.

I just think it's cool that someone dares to envision a sandbox with room for everyone.... come and play or stay home - it's OK.

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 494766)

Sorry Dave , but our own Michael Beard has already done this ....and most chose to Stay Home in SPITE of Michaels best Efforts and $$$

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 494766)

Sorry Dave , but our own Michael Beard has already done this ....and most chose to Stay Home in SPITE of Michaels best Efforts and $$$

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND (Post 494760)

Will you don't have to have a 10-25 grand motor to run stock. I have 2 stockers sitting
Here with no where near that in the pair.
I have a friend that bought a pure stocker changed the cam and rear. It would run under the index, so it can be done with a budget

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 494759)

It boils down to this...a forward thinking, bold spirited promoter whose glass is half full has "put up" what should be enough incentive to entice the most pessimistic among us to drag our stuff out, make this event a success, and potentially forge the beginning of a sustainable format. Some will tow across the continent to be here and there will be those who choose not to haul down the street - it's all about choice after all, and that is why there is justification for more than one 'HRA and the unique classes that populate each organization.

I just think it's cool that someone dares to envision a sandbox with room for everyone.... come and play or stay home - it's OK.

Originally Posted by tpoh815 (Post 494634)

Just a question. I cant remember 2007 or 2008 IHRA was displeased with the condition of the pit area, mainly where the pros parked. Did they ever fix or improve it ? I haven't returned since then so I am wondering what NHRA sees as advantageous to having an event there. I am very happy this is happening and hoping for a good turn out as this would be the closest NHRA event in the WNY area.

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 494792)

We won't know until the last pair goes down track, but my suspicion is that the NHRA sanction, National Open status, grade point and Wally will make a difference. Our Ontario based Can Am S/SS Series can put 50 cars on the property

Michael did everything he could...TWICE! I hope he can make the trip as well.

Originally Posted by CrateCamaro (Post 495312)

Im extremely exited that IHRA cars will be allowed to run. Hopefully it will open NHRAs eyes and allow us crate motor stockers to run more often. I think the whole "crate motor" name gets confused with some people. Other then a different casting head, intake and carb these cars are identical to traditional stockers. Same bottom end, same camshaft with a lift rule. For example my H/CM Camaro 350/330hp (334 re-rated) that uses a 9.5 weight to rated HP and a 11.95 index is 98% the same as a G or H/SA car.

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 495325)

curios what is the lift on the cam in your h/cm?

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 495374)

Why would a guy not build a car that fit classes with both HRAs in the first place, if he wanted to be able to run it anywhere? Instead of expecting one HRA to change rules to suit them?

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 495374)

Why would a guy not build a car that fit classes with both HRAs in the first place, if he wanted to be able to run it anywhere? Instead of expecting one HRA to change rules to suit them?

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 495388)

WHY?
YOU know this answer..
He is not building a car for you..!

I do not get why NHRA does not include IHRA Classes already?
IF IHRA does not want our business.
We have OPTIONS (CHOICES) and will go elsewhere..

Dan

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 495388)

WHY?
YOU know this answer..
He is not building a car for you..!

I do not get why NHRA does not include IHRA Classes already?
IF IHRA does not want our business.
We have OPTIONS (CHOICES) and will go elsewhere..

Dan

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 495388)

WHY?
YOU know this answer..
He is not building a car for you..!

I do not get why NHRA does not include IHRA Classes already?
IF IHRA does not want our business.
We have OPTIONS (CHOICES) and will go elsewhere..

Dan

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 495413)

I can't agree with Mr Ed more, with the way tracks are flipping associations these days you shouldn't limit your options. You spent that much money to get where you are you just as well finish the deal. I have seen some really nice Crate Motor cars but I wouldn't want any of them for this very reason.
Dan I admire your passion but Mr Ed is also right they don't need to add any classes because they have more of us show up than they want anyway. Did you notice that they lowered quite a few quotas this year for some Nationals? That says it all.....
I do hope they will include the IHRA classes at Galot this year also would make for an impressive turnout I believe.

Originally Posted by hr9121 (Post 495413)

i can't agree with mr ed more, with the way tracks are flipping associations these days you shouldn't limit your options. You spent that much money to get where you are you just as well finish the deal. I have seen some really nice crate motor cars but i wouldn't want any of them for this very reason.
Dan i admire your passion but mr ed is also right they don't need to add any classes because they have more of us show up than they want anyway. Did you notice that they lowered quite a few quotas this year for some nationals? That says it all.....
I do hope they will include the ihra classes at galot this year also would make for an impressive turnout i believe.

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 495388)

WHY?
YOU know this answer..
He is not building a car for you..!

I do not get why NHRA does not include IHRA Classes already?
IF IHRA does not want our business.
We have OPTIONS (CHOICES) and will go elsewhere..

Dan

Originally Posted by gbur (Post 495392)

Dan , please read your post

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 495418)

If you race Nhra you would realize we have plenty of cars. We go rule over here Class cars only. Not street eliminator cars.

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 495434)

Those cars fit their published rules. Crate motor cars & pure stock cars do not. NHRA did have Pure Stock several years ago. And, like IHRA, had so few cars in those classes they dropped them. Still not enough of them running to bother with.

Originally Posted by CrateCamaro (Post 495432)

Its funny how they wont bark at a dodge neon, caravan, or a caddilac qualifying #1 (not thats theres anything wrong with that i think its great) but they turn their nose up at an IHRA crate motor car that visually looks identical to whats in the NHRA lanes. The casting number on the head is different, has an aluminum intake and a 750 carb and its kryptonite to an NHRA racer because its not "traditional". I think we are forgetting that even though it goes against what out "stocker" four-fathers put forward its still a bracket race. I just wish you NHRA guys would accept us. We are good people. LOL

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 495442)

You just read the part you wanted to Dan. Give it up.

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 495474)

Dan, NHRA does not care if you never race with them. Not enough of you guys to worry about, and don't hold your breath for them to add more classes for older cars. They don't care.