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Mark Markow 09-04-2015 12:19 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
does anyone go to indy and slow their car down. I would think everyone is on kill .

Sean Marconette 09-04-2015 12:29 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Fred,

You made the comment that you do not race Stock. The difference is a performance based class like Stock and Super Stock, Jim and anyone like him has worked hard at something that we all strive for in these two classes. He races the car the way he wants to, and to beat him you better have brought enough. What's to say he is showing all of his cards? It takes time and money to race in these classes and be at the top of the pack, and I would say he has shown everyone he does not have a soft combo, and is willing to show its potential.

This is in no way intended to be an attack, just the facts that true Stock/SS racers wanting to show off their hard work, and also be legal when doing so. That right there is what this sport is all about.

Congratulations to Jim and his team. Way to show everyone how its done, and you have many people's respect for it!

Sean

ALMACK 09-04-2015 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 481336)
Fred,

You made the comment that you do not race Stock. The difference is a performance based class like Stock and Super Stock, Jim and anyone like him has worked hard at something that we all strive for in these two classes. He races the car the way he wants to, and to beat him you better have brought enough. What's to say he is showing all of his cards? It takes time and money to race in these classes and be at the top of the pack, and I would say he has shown everyone he does not have a soft combo, and is willing to show its potential.

This is in no way intended to be an attack, just the facts that true Stock/SS racers wanting to show off their hard work, and also be legal when doing so. That right there is what this sport is all about.

Congratulations to Jim and his team. Way to show everyone how its done, and you have many people's respect for it!

Sean

Well said Sean ^^

Glad to hear tech passed o.k.

fredjohnston 09-04-2015 12:59 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
I'm not understanding why someone would want to run their car and trigger THEIR OWN combo for HP increase? I can see going fast at Indy and I can see going fast in a heads-up race, that make sense. Going fast all the time and triggering your OWN COMBO where you've spent a lot of time and money to make it go fast is sorta like shooting your self in the foot, no? Especially when everyone knows you have fast car anyway and you have nothing to prove.

As far as being protested, I would think it's an ego booster that my competitors think I'm so fast I may be illegal.

If I had a 69 Camaro in the garage and thinking of building it for stock it wouldn't be the 396 combo I would build especially when you have somebody that continues to pound the combo. I would build a Corvette that is an easier combo.

Just some thoughts.

Mark Markow 09-04-2015 02:29 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
you keep pointing Jim out. but here is the qual. sheet for class. the top 8 are at a sec. under and the top 3, only hundredth apart. it's a competitive class. and Jim wants to be at the top. and he does back it down on occasion.

B/SA 1499 Jim Boudreau, Tewksbury MA, '69 Camaro 10.128 11.25 -1.122
B/SA 1608 Gary Richard, Bayshore NY, '69 Camaro 10.133 11.25 -1.117
B/SA 45 J Allen Sherman, Donaldsonville LA, '00 Corvet 10.138 11.25 -1.112
B/SA 383 Larry Hill, Hickory KY, '70 Barracuda 10.176 11.25 -1.074
B/SA 5009 Scott Burton, Golden CO, '70 Firebird 10.203 11.25 -1.047
B/SA 4022 Jeff Teuton, Houma LA, '13 Challenger 10.213 11.25 -1.037
B/SA 1013 David Ficacci, Whippany NJ, '69 Camaro 10.239 11.25 -1.011
B/SA 2032 Jack Zimmerman, Clemmons NC, '71 Challenger 10.268 11.25 -0.982
B/SA 5027 Don Morris, Golden CO, '66 Coronet 10.292 11.25 -0.958
B/SA 1557 Fred Thibeault, Middleton NS, '69 Camaro 10.315 11.25 -0.935
B/SA 1002 Jeffrey Bardekoff, Commack NY, '64 Fury 10.348 11.25 -0.902
B/SA 1387 Chris Howes, Quispamsis NB, '70 Challenger 10.365 11.25 -0.885
B/SA 4402 Jerry Emmons, Pasadena TX, '69 Camaro 10.382 11.25 -0.868
B/SA 441 Mitch Truman, N. Manchester IN, '95 Camaro 10.410 11.25 -0.840
B/SA 3522 Gary Merrick, Girard OH, '70 Camaro 10.581 11.25 -0.669
B/SA 3440 Sean Dornan, Republic OH, '70 Challenger NT

Larry Hill 09-04-2015 02:34 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Fred, you obviously do not know the rules for Stock and Super Stock! With mindshaft conditions, nobody gets horsepower unless you go -1.20 under! And no B/SA went that fast!!


Patsy

Tim H 09-04-2015 02:49 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Good for you, Patsty. You guys are the best for reporting all the news to us stuck at home or at work. Thanks !

HR9121 09-04-2015 03:58 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 481338)
I'm not understanding why someone would want to run their car and trigger THEIR OWN combo for HP increase? I can see going fast at Indy and I can see going fast in a heads-up race, that make sense. Going fast all the time and triggering your OWN COMBO where you've spent a lot of time and money to make it go fast is sorta like shooting your self in the foot, no? Especially when everyone knows you have fast car anyway and you have nothing to prove.

As far as being protested, I would think it's an ego booster that my competitors think I'm so fast I may be illegal.

If I had a 69 Camaro in the garage and thinking of building it for stock it wouldn't be the 396 combo I would build especially when you have somebody that continues to pound the combo. I would build a Corvette that is an easier combo.

Just some thoughts.

Here's some thoughts for you, build one and run it the way you want! Then let someone tell you what you should be doing with YOUR car.

Jeff Stout 09-04-2015 04:21 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
I thought this class is a performance oriented type racing. I have heard so many times this isn't a bracket class. So a guy performs to the best of his ability and its frowned upon. I'm confused.

Alan Roehrich 09-04-2015 04:38 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 481375)
I thought this class is a performance oriented type racing. I have heard so many times this isn't a bracket class. So a guy performs to the best of his ability and its frowned upon. I'm confused.



Not by most of his fellow racers he isn't.

Hagen Gary 09-04-2015 04:45 PM

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I'm somebody who runs the same combo as Jim. I ain't mad at him. I'm impressed. I probably can't get within 2 tenths of that number in those conditions. He knows there are plenty of turds out there like me to keep the avg down and it's his car. So he can do as he pleases, unless it's 1.20 under, of coarse. Besides, none of this data counts, so what's the fuss over? Build that camaro Fred, you'll find out real quick this combo ain't soft to begin with

Larry Hill 09-04-2015 06:30 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Right now Jim's car is the yardstick that everyone with a carb strives to be better than. Sherman's 'Vett is way past bad fast, and like Jim's car Is correct. Sherman pulled a piston and went through the rest of the teardown with flying colors. Two fast cars that pass Indy teardowns. Wonder how much the cars are?

Ed Wright 09-04-2015 08:33 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Allen Sherman is used to 4000' air as well. It's always fast.

stock1080 09-04-2015 08:35 PM

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glad to see him show them.he's a class act.

B/SA 187 09-04-2015 09:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee valentine (Post 481282)
there's a reason jim the butchers,gary parker and the others go fast. They are relentless in their pursuit of perfection, i am proud to call them my friend s ,

x2

Gary Parker 09-06-2015 10:02 AM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Jim is as hard of a worker as anyone I have ever seen. He is my inspiration. And as a person, He is as nice as you would ever want to meet. Congrats Jim, your hard work has paid of, and now in the final 16... Keep it going. Gary Parker

Mark Yacavone 09-06-2015 01:40 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Jim Boudreau has certainly paid his dues. Started out with that localized AHRA type stuff at Epping, then adapted to NHRA quite well.
Proud to say I've known him for 44 years. Good luck ,Jim

Allen Sherman 09-06-2015 02:14 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 481395)
Right now Jim's car is the yardstick that everyone with a carb strives to be better than. Sherman's 'Vett is way past bad fast, and like Jim's car Is correct. Sherman pulled a piston and went through the rest of the teardown with flying colors. Two fast cars that pass Indy teardowns. Wonder how much the cars are?

Thanks for the compliments mr Larry and mrs patsy...it was a long day in the barn that was worth every second. Mr Ed the hard work you put in your car at your age is a inspiration to a guy like me that I gotta keep working hard to get it done...

Don Moulton 09-06-2015 03:28 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Way to go Jim! I am very happy for you and we are pulling for you to go all the way!

Don and Bob Moulton

Bill Pomponi 09-07-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Way to go Jim!!

Big Road 09-07-2015 08:05 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Why is everyone getting there pants in a uproar about the protest just like it his car he can do what he want they can make sure he is legal I don't think any of you guys would like someone beating the combo you are in. Also does Gary Richard have the steel head because that was impressive run at 412 hp rating

david ring 09-08-2015 03:22 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
this article may have been already posted here, but it's just a bit more about what kind of guy Jim is http://homenewshere.com/tewksbury_to...a4bcf887a.html

Bob Don 09-08-2015 03:37 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david ring (Post 481916)
this article may have been already posted here, but it's just a bit more about what kind of guy Jim is http://homenewshere.com/tewksbury_to...a4bcf887a.html

Great article, Dave. Thanks for posting.

B/SA 187 09-08-2015 06:15 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david ring (Post 481916)
this article may have been already posted here, but it's just a bit more about what kind of guy Jim is http://homenewshere.com/tewksbury_to...a4bcf887a.html

good article

Dennis P Chapman 09-08-2015 06:39 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b/sa 187 (Post 481947)
good article

x2

asbell 09-08-2015 06:56 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 481321)
Are you on crack? Jim is racing the way that it should be!

RIGHT ON! Mr Nees

Frank Castros 09-08-2015 06:58 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
A role model for many of us for sure.

gtaa 09-08-2015 08:44 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Gary had alu head engine
M.Lind D/SA 801

impstocker 09-08-2015 11:37 PM

Re: Protest at Indy.
 
Not for nothing, building a 65 Impala I will be running the 396/325 motor, I was pretty impressed by Steve Hutar and his 11.14 times at Indy. I am assuming his is a 396/325 car too running the natural class for the car which is H/SA like my car. Damn, pretty impressive for a 3850 lb big chevy. Just wanted to mention this.

Will Lamprecht H or I/SA 65 Imp in progress.


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