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Carguy49 09-26-2016 01:47 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Looks good. Very cool that you accomplished your goal.

Harry 6674 09-27-2016 10:35 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Those station wagon rear seat footwells work for more then just hidden storage. Good deal. Much better then through the window. IMHO.

HandOverFist 10-01-2016 09:32 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Worked Friday and today getting the headliner and glass installed (a first for me).

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Late this afternoon after finishing the glass I decided to lower the engine into place to see if I had a set of headers on hand that would work for me. It soon became apparent something was wrong...I could not get the motor mount bolts in/aligned to save my life. I have had the engine in the truck many times and could easily drop it in by myself with zero difficulties.

After about an hour of cussing and head scratching I spied something else I had not noticed since it returned home from the roll bar installation...the truck was leaning towards the driver side quiet a bit. Measurements revealed the driver side of the truck is about 3/4" lower than the passenger side. I can only guess at this point the welding/install of the roll bar has somehow caused this. I was able to loosen the engine frame mounts to finally get the motor mount bolts in, but that is a bandaide that does not address the real problem as it still has the lean. Not sure what to do at this point, but I know I won't satisfied with a vehicle heaved over to one side.

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HandOverFist 10-02-2016 12:09 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
After much thought it looks like the least painful solution to evening out the body is to cut the floor pans around the bars on the driver-side and shim the body mounts an additional 3/4". Any other ideas?

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Painter 10-02-2016 01:50 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Only one way to FIX it CORRECTLY. Take it to the best frame shop arou d Nasbville and have the straighten it. Tell them when they figure out exactly which bar needs to be cut- cut it. Then let the roll bar guy fix it. If you dont start with a straight car it wont ever be right.

HandOverFist 10-02-2016 01:56 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 516350)
Only one way to FIX it CORRECTLY. Take it to the best frame shop arou d Nasbville and have the straighten it. Tell them when they figure out exactly which bar needs to be cut- cut it. Then let the roll bar guy fix it. If you dont start with a straight car it wont ever be right.

You ever hear of or see a roll bar install that would draw one so bad you could not get the engine mounts to line up or cause the body to droop like that on one side? Marty said it was level and on jackstands with the suspension dropped when he welded. I put it on stands myself this morning...three stands support the vehicle with the fourth (passenger front) supporting nothing but air, but not a huge gap.

Painter 10-02-2016 02:13 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
I guess a level floor is worth its weight in concrete. If it was straight before, and bent now there is only one thing could have happened. At least you cound it now, should only have cut one bar. With two swing out bars he might not have to cut one, just cut or lengthen one of the swing outs.

HandOverFist 10-02-2016 02:48 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
I hate to speculate where the problem lies, but here are two certain facts...

I've had a engine in and out of this vehicle numerous times for various reasons since I began this project last year and never once had any difficulty inserting motor mount bolts.

I don't recall ever putting a tape to it either before I began or during this project before the roll bar install. Considering all the time I have spent in and around this vehicle the past twelve months I find it hard to believe I would not have noticed a peculiar lean towards one side. Not one to rely on my oft feeble memory alone...I have a considerable amount of camera images that do not reveal any such lean.

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HandOverFist 10-08-2016 08:37 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Beginning to resemble something again -

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HandOverFist 10-10-2016 09:47 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
After a short session of wet sanding a portion of the hood yesterday I decided it would be best to do the entire vehicle.

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The speedometer cluster turned out nice.

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Alan Nyhus 10-10-2016 11:15 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Rich, what did you find out concerning your chassis deal? -Al

Carguy49 10-10-2016 11:35 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Rich, it sounds like everything was done correctly. This definitely falls in the weird category. Good luck and let us know how it comes out.

HandOverFist 10-10-2016 12:06 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
I still am not sure what the reason is, but I did shim the two body mounts closest to the rear on the driver side. At the front door hinges there is only a 1/4" difference so I elected to not shim any further forward of the frame. I'll have a better sense of what it looks like once all the weight is back on the car and I can get it outside for a better view.

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HandOverFist 10-30-2016 09:35 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Been taking care of minor details lately. I discovered that wet sanding much improved the appearance and just finished the entire vehicle...whew!

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Dash complete...doing some extra wiring before it goes back in.

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Engine is already in place...will attach the metric transmission the next time I pick the truck up in the air. It's a toss up which will be the final step...setting up the rear housing or installing the vent/side glass. I'm just dreading trying to get that glass back into place.

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HandOverFist 11-21-2016 01:44 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
All glass, trim and bumpers installed...finally looks like something again.

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Ed Carpenter 11-23-2016 09:36 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Nice car! Engine looks like its painted same color we painted ours I like it!

HandOverFist 11-24-2016 02:33 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 520630)
Nice car! Engine looks like its painted same color we painted ours I like it!

Thanks Ed - Here lately I've been painting all my engines with the cast iron grey...sick of looking at orange lol. :p

HandOverFist 11-24-2016 10:29 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Finished the doors today and pulled out the manual pedals in favor of an automatic brake pedal. Metric 200 went right in with the factory cross member...guess I will shell the 12-bolt tm. Junk headers installed until I can find a suitable set.

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HandOverFist 11-25-2016 10:04 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Spent the day doing some much needed cleanup and organizing instead of actual work on the El Camino. I also moved operations over to the heated side of the building with the onset of colder temps...mo happy.

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We really need to get the '66 back together for next year.

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HandOverFist 12-22-2016 12:42 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Moving at a snail's pace as usual. Ford housing ends to be welded in place Friday, then I can order axles and get the 12-bolt back under the truck.

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HandOverFist 12-23-2016 07:41 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Thanks to Perry Simpkins and Gary Jennings, no more c-clip eliminators. :)

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HandOverFist 12-24-2016 04:33 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
New Budnick steering wheel looks right at home in there.

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HandOverFist 01-24-2017 03:01 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Best I could come up with for an alternator/mount...a lower mount was just not working out.

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Ordered the wrong Wilwood rear brakes for my housing ends...awaiting replacements so I can stab the axles in and measure for back wheels. Also need to fabricate a d-shaft loop which will likely get welded to the crossmember.

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Dave Muller 01-24-2017 12:08 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Lookin' good!

I have the same alternator mount on my bracket Camaro, but I had to extend the top part a bit when I got tall valve covers. But I like it a lot, it's easy to get the exact tension on the belt you want and it holds it great.

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HandOverFist 01-24-2017 12:28 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
It needed two 1/4" spacers to line the pulleys up...running a 46" belt.

Alan Nyhus 01-24-2017 09:19 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Rich, Ram Air Restoration offers a driveshaft loop that bolts to the Chevelle cross member. -Al

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PONTIAC-OLDS...isMfNg&vxp=mtr

HandOverFist 01-25-2017 02:18 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Thanks Al...I may give that a shot as I don't have any suitable scrap lying about atm. :)

Mark Yacavone 01-25-2017 01:23 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 525010)
Thanks Al...I may give that a shot as I don't have any suitable scrap lying about atm. :)

It doesn't look too hard to fab up something like that..A chunk of pipe and some flat stock.

HandOverFist 01-30-2017 03:35 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Back on four legs again. Axles installed and the Wilwood disc brakes clear 15" wheels with ease. Mounted some 30x9 Hoosiers on 5.5" BS wheels and they tucked in nicely, but they were a little tight on the frame side. I'll be ordering 5" BS wheels and that part will be finished. :)

Right now I'm battling a no fire situation with the new MSD 6530 box...:mad:

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HandOverFist 02-02-2017 04:13 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
The "no fire" situation is solved and the beast is alive. Tip of the day...ensure your 12v switched source has at least 9v when cranking. 3v will not cut it... :o

Alan Nyhus 02-02-2017 08:30 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Whew...glad you found it. :) -Al

HandOverFist 02-02-2017 11:06 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Yeah Alan, that was easy enough as I was initially worried about another setback with a defective ignition box.

Distributor is locked at 36° and I plotted a retard curve of 12° from 500rpm to 2400rpm.then another retard curve of 2° from 6000rpm out. It does not want to start cold well atm...thinking it may have an air leak.

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Shifter ended up a little higher than I had envisioned...forgot to allow for the elevated shifter brackets. Something else to revisit at a later date. Kind of reminds me of the old "Rat Fink" hotrod cartoons lol. Happy to have the bench seat back where it belongs.

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HandOverFist 02-05-2017 01:43 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Confirmed air leak...used the wrong Q-jet base gaskets. :o

Brake system completely plumbed and bled...I think it leaked from every joint initially. :rolleyes:

Shift cable too short...remedy on the way. All that remains are the rear wheels.

Alan Nyhus 02-05-2017 10:19 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Nice work, as always. :) -Al

HandOverFist 02-07-2017 03:04 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Not exactly what I had in mind, but it is what it is...last two pieces are on the way. :rolleyes:

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David Lee 02-07-2017 05:14 AM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
nice wheels

HandOverFist 02-13-2017 04:25 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Talk about bringing a knife to a gunfight lol...

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Alan Nyhus 02-14-2017 03:43 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Rich, at least you don't have to deal with one of those pesky aluminum intake manifolds....;)

HandOverFist 02-24-2017 07:15 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Under it's own power again and front-end alignment scheduled for Tuesday morning...all I lack now are the rear wheels.

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Mark Faul 02-26-2017 05:08 PM

Re: '67 El Camino H/SA
 
Looks good Rich!
Did you ever get headers that were the right size?


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