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Mike Pearson 09-02-2014 01:43 PM

Re: SS/JA should be good!
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 443618)
Mine is still down on power. Should have stayed my tail in Oklahoma. Pretty embarrassing. I had nothing for anybody. If I keep racing, I'm going back to my old combo. Had enough of this one. Ricky & Ronnie both went 9.80s. Ricky won what looked like a close one from where I was standing.

Absolutely no embarrassment for your performance. You qualified well on the top half of the sheet and went 3 rounds in eliminations. I would say that's a pretty good "Indy". You did better than the majority of racers there. I could only wish that my car runs as good as yours did. I know you were hoping to do a little better but not bad overall. I hope you keep racing. I read and enjoy every post that you write on this forum.

Michael Beard 09-02-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444174)
Was Larry Stewart there with Lloyd's Drag Pak?

They put that car in SS/JA, and everybody there's feelings are going to be hurt.

Nope, he was not. There's absolutely no doubt that it would be stupid fast, but as they say, "cain't win if you ain't in." In fact, Decker was .15 away from the #1 qualifier in Super Stock, but he still won the Quick 32. They don't race 'em on paper. ;)

We will be doing the event again next year. All Stock and Super Stock cars are invited. No AHFS. Prove it on the race track!

Jeff Niceswanger 09-02-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444174)
Was Larry Stewart there with Lloyd's Drag Pak?

They put that car in SS/JA, and everybody there's feelings are going to be hurt.

That's why Decker was in JA...Because Stewart was in IA...

Ed Wright 09-02-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 444246)
That's why Decker was in JA...Because Stewart was in IA...

Yeah, Ricky faced that monster last year. Lloyd, Sonny & James built the baddest SS car on the planet there.

nolongerracing 09-02-2014 07:21 PM

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Doesn't Stewart get to add 100 lbs. today?

Ed Wright 09-02-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nolongerracing (Post 444264)
Doesn't Stewart get to add 100 lbs. today?

I don't know how much he will get. Do you? If you are correct, they always run it more than that heavy anyway.

Bryan Worner 09-03-2014 05:45 AM

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The 360 Drag Pak combo is the most bogus in SS! Not saying anything bad about those who run it, just that NHRA missed big time on rating it at 275. Ricky has the fastest real SS car in the country! Just proved it at Indy, the place where you save your combo all year for!

Michael Beard 09-03-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 444333)
The 360 Drag Pak combo is the most bogus in SS! Not saying anything bad about those who run it, just that NHRA missed big time on rating it at 275. Ricky has the fastest real SS car in the country! Just proved it at Indy, the place where you save your combo all year for!

I run one, and I agree. That's why I built it. It's rated 50HP less than my 360 Magnum crate motor was in IHRA Stock. While there are at least two more in the works, it's very surprising there haven't been more built.

Kevin Panzino 09-03-2014 10:00 AM

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Is the 360 drag pack combo the one that bardekoff has in his cuda that he bombed the gt/fa record with?

Ed Wright 09-03-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 444333)
The 360 Drag Pak combo is the most bogus in SS! Not saying anything bad about those who run it, just that NHRA missed big time on rating it at 275. Ricky has the fastest real SS car in the country! Just proved it at Indy, the place where you save your combo all year for!

Is Ronnie Terrell's car bogus? He killed ten MPH and ran quicker (9.805) than any SS/JA car there. Then screwed with it before the next round, and could only run 9.85 out the back door. He changed it right back. :-)

I've thought for a long time Ronnie had the fastest SS/JA car on the planet. I still do. Ricky is not far off. He is bad fast.

Bobby DiDomenico 09-03-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444297)
I don't know how much he will get. Do you? If you are correct, they always run it more than that heavy anyway.

Interesting Ed,
Do they not use the actual run weight when calculating HP? If you are already getting factored at a weight heavier than you will be required to run in the future the system is even more flawed than many here feel it is:-)

Ed Wright 09-03-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 444367)
Interesting Ed,
Do they not use the actual run weight when calculating HP? If you are already getting factored at a weight heavier than you will be required to run in the future the system is even more flawed than many here feel it is:-)

No, Bobby, a lot of us run heavy to avoid hitting the 1 under trigger and to keep our AHFS average down. They run that car more than 100 over weight anyway. As far as I know, NHRA doesn't monitor what we go across the scales at. Hope not anyway. :-)

When mine is healthy I usually run it 140 heavy. I didn't need to as weak as it has been these last couple of weeks. I finally took all the weight out at Indy, and best it went was -.879.
Need to get it back out of the car. I think know what it needs now, to get back where it was. Won't be as fast as Ricky's, but better than it is.

442OLDS 09-03-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444375)
No, Bobby, a lot of us run heavy to avoid hitting the 1 under trigger and to keep our AHFS average down. They run that car more than 100 over weight anyway. As far as I know, NHRA doesn't monitor what we go across the scales at. Hope not anyway. :-)


When mine is healthy I usually run it 140 heavy. I didn't need to as weak as it has been these last couple of weeks. I finally took all the weight out at Indy, and best it went was -.879.
Need to get it back out of the car. I think know what it needs now, to get back where it was. Won't be as fast as Ricky's, but better than it is.

Sounds like a pretty good combo.

Jeff Niceswanger 09-03-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444362)
Is Ronnie Terrell's car bogus? He killed ten MPH and ran quicker (9.805) than any SS/JA car there. Then screwed with it before the next round, and could only run 9.85 out the back door. He changed it right back. :-)

I've thought for a long time Ronnie had the fastest SS/JA car on the planet. I still do. Ricky is not far off. He is bad fast.

I was in the other lane when Ronnie went the .805. I don't understand this "after the race " conversation . Decker beat us ALL. Class at Indy is over.... Same day, same track..
BTW.... When Ronnie and I ran in the morning the Air was 2750.... I helped Rickey in the final and the air was 1000 feet worse and we had lost some tailwind.

442OLDS 09-03-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 444367)
Interesting Ed,
Do they not use the actual run weight when calculating HP? If you are already getting factored at a weight heavier than you will be required to run in the future the system is even more flawed than many here feel it is:-)


Where is the "LIKE" button?

Randall Klein 09-03-2014 11:44 AM

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You can run heavy, but a few years ago you could not weigh more than the next lower class, i.e., I cannot run SS/MA at SS/NA weight. A minor point since hardly anyone runs that heavy, but at Norwalk about 3 years ago Travis held a meeting in the trailer at Tech explaning that

It may have changed

I did observe a racer removing 200 lbs at Joliet one year...hard to do when its "welded in"

countrypuppy4865 09-03-2014 12:30 PM

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The 360 will receive 9hp. The old minimum weight for SS/IA was 2920. It will now be 3010.

Ed Wright 09-03-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 444398)
The 360 will receive 9hp. The old minimum weight for SS/IA was 2920. It will now be 3010.

Don't think that will bother that car much, do you?

Mike Voth 09-04-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 444409)
Don't think that will bother that car much, do you?

How many cars actually run near minimum anyway? Not many, I'm guessing.

Ed Wright 09-04-2014 02:32 PM

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I'm usually 140 over, except the last four weekends where it had slowed down so bad.
Had all the weight out on the 10.12 pass. No weight, no restirctor plate, still slow. LOL
Just need to get the car out of the trailer, and take it back apart. It's only money, right?

69Cobra 09-04-2014 06:56 PM

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You can't take it with you Ed! Go get 'em!

As far as Ronnie goes. I seen what he went at the Class Nationals in Columbus this year and I haven't see anybody within a tenth of that yet. All out no AHFS and my money is on the "Tin Soldier"!

Tin Soldier 09-06-2014 02:51 PM

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This is Jason Terrell, Ronnie's son. Wanted to say congratulations to Rickey for taking home the win in a very competitive class. There we a lot of JA cars that ran super good up there (Jeff could have had us in the first round, that was a good race) and it was awesome to be in a class that is so competitive. Every class racer has to deal with the horse power factoring exc and it's apart of nhra racing for good and for bad. Rickey has a killer car and on that Friday he was the best. From the tin soldier pits congrats it was fun! Cannot wait to do it again.


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