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Do they do record runs at the Dutch?

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I really don't think Kelly was disrespecting Stephen, if I did I would be all over him! What I believe he was doing was showing how ridiculous these cars still are! Jim

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As far as I know they do Kelly. A few years back Ralph Conte set the E/SA record there but the engine broke on the backup.

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Will the 08 CJ Have Hp reduced in the last half of 2012 because the AHFS recieved a request to let the car "fit" stock again? Remember Charlie Bob's letter asking for a reduction before the car ever made a run.

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Yes they do.

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Record runs at the Dutch are Thursday and Friday and the corrected altitude is usually well below 1000'; very conducive to fast times.

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Fezzell just went 9:20 at 150 spinning the tires. Unbelievable wheelstands this morning. Can't wait for pics and videos....but to the point of thread, SS/E is now CJ territory. Danny was right now many of the SS racers will feel the pain...

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Nice run.....lets hope he runs faster before the weekend is over. I wish him good luck. Just shows how stupid NHRA is in allowing this crap to go on and how much smoke the racers of these new under rated combos have been blowing up everyones azz for the last few years. Just wait until he sets the car up with a nice suspension, larger tires and some engine modifications and see how fast he goes. Im loving it.

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Anyone know what weight he is at compared to what he was running last race in AA/S? Just curious.

Go Daddy Warbucks! Maybe he will be able to move up a few classes this weekend!

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Indy, AA/S, 7.5 pound class, 476 hp rating (at that time), 3,740 minimum weight, 9.38 et @ 148 mph

Charlotte, SS/E, 8 pound class, 425 rating, 3,570 min wt, 9.20 @ 150

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I applaud Fezell for running it out, and no disrespect, but I gotta wonder where he and others put all that weight in a fairly small car. Got to be a headache adding weight and then removing some and the welding that goes with weight bar nuts, combined with race schedule, towing etc...wears me out thinking about it....looks like he's having fun tho

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Thanks Mike.

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Now I know why he is in E...................:D

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Larry Hill, What if Ford has Nhra change the shipping weight in guide? Like they change engine spec`s to make car`s legal. back to stock. Tom

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Was told in tech that next year there will be a 6, 6 1/2, and 7 lb weight break, so Fezell will be back in stock.
Chuck

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Maybe they will add a 10.442 class???

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A 7.0 class makes sense, but having 6.0 and 6.5 weight breaks is just stupid. Those are Super Stock weight breaks, for a reason.

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[QUOTE=Alan Roehrich;283219]A 7.0 class makes sense, but having 6.0 and 6.5 weight breaks is just stupid. Those are Super Stock weight breaks, for a reason.[/QUOT

a lil reliable birdy told me they would be in there own class next year...

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[QUOTE=Stephen & Horace Johnson;283223]
Well, weight breaks like that in their own class with the right tires and safety equipment would be great for the cars, owners, drivers, and racing.

I suggested 10" or 10.5" slicks, 12 point cages, and classes from 6.0 to 12.0 in one pound increments a while back.

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[QUOTE=Stephen & Horace Johnson;283223]A reliable little birdy told me the same thing at Indy.

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Factory Experimental within Stock Eliminator?

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I'd almost bet that any type of FX classes would wind up in SS. It seems like SS has become a "dumping ground" for classes that don't exactly fit in Stock or Comp.
I agree with Alan about 6 and 6.5 classes in Stock. A 9" tire would be a scary ride and 10.5 tire puts everyone else at more of a disadvantage.

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If they are put into their own class then it's what we've been asking for the last two years. Maybe NHRA has finally seen the light with stock car counts constantly dropping. I hope this includes the lower class cars also. Their numbers are growing. My only concern is that they combine stick and auto cars to make room for the new classes which opens another can of worms since so many combo's have different HP. Many think that the auto cars can consistently compete with the stick cars but a three speed auto with a converter which loses HP going through the converter will not outrun a 4 speed stick when all things are equal. I ran a stick for many years way back when just because it was always faster.

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Transmissions and converters are MUCH more efficent today than "Back When" until you get into the lower and FWD classes. nNly problem is in todays S/S classes is they are now allowed clutchless stick transmissions.

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With a new rating of 491 HP that combo is now only about 250HP under-factored.....so that should only be about 2 more years before they fit where they belong.

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Simple fix bring back the fuel injection classes with some higher classes.

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Mike,
If we read this correctly they expect a car with more modifications and 170 lbs less wt to run just .18 quicker?

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Well it did it with no modifications from how he ran it in stock.

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Chad, seems I hit the go button and wiped out a line without trying. Was going to ask if it weighed the same or the 170 lbs. less. Have some non racing engineering friends interested in this because of the vast differences in HP and WT being described. To clarify you can only add enough wt to move up or down a class (as in you cannot be too heavy and run slower than you would at max class weight using the class numbers) but in AA/SA many of these cars have over 500 lbs of weight added? They want to know if there is a rule on where the weight is added. Must it be split to 50/50, etc.? I thought NHRA removed the nose heavy % requirement many years ago.
Thanks

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6.0lb Stockers ... like a 427 Cobra? Unfortunately that wouldn't run with the CJ's and Drag Paks either but it'll be interesting to see how deep in the 8's a Stocker will go.

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8's and "stockers" aren't supposed to be in the same sentence. Totally wrong!!




Bret Velde