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dude. i have a plan for my life. I work nights full time unloading trucks for a living, i take classes at the local technical school for computer hardware, and i am currently being trained in the heating and air condition business, AND i am building a race car not to mention pay my bills and pay my rent. i think thats quite something if you ask me. most guys my age are either out partying and getting drunk or getting stoned and being spoiled by their parnents. me i actually have goals that i have set and i work my *** off! and i'm not talking tough. im making a proposition to you to bring your *** down here to topeka so i can race you heads up and beat your *** on the drag strip! because you're obviously trying to prove a point.

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It's nice to see you have a good work ethic.As far as beating me heads up you wouldn't have a very tough time doing that since I race a 6 cylinder gremlin that runs mid 13s.I don't think many people would be
impressed.My whole point is for you to learn some people skills.Remember racing is just a little diversion
from real life.

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ya know man i do have people skills i do. but im not lookin to joke around and be teased about my car. i know they dont like the idea of it. but i do. and its cheap. AND FAST. i was looking for straight up answers about it and if it should just be a street/ strip car or a full drag car. but i couldnt get that. ya know i am sorry if i made you guys mad mad. i appologize but damn. show a little respect to me and i'll show respect to you. im just tired of being attacked on here. you guys are giving me a rep that isnt who i really am. its not cool.

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Just make it a drag car and go have fun. Its hard to race on a computer, sounds like you have a car, headers on the way, and a engine being built so get it togeather and race.

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im goin too! i am really really stoked about the car and i hope to have it all done by next april. my buddy has the car right now because hes installing the roll cage. its over at his dads shop, and its looking really really good. hopefully i can get ahold of a camera pretty soon and take some pictures of it so i can post them on here. but other than that yeah its a working progress. getting ready to save up a little bit of money for the aje cross member. and i also found some really awesome weld racing wheels in the jegs catalog that i am really digging. they're the weld aluma star 2.0 fronts that have the black anodized finish. BADASS. but other than that its getting there! :D

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Not looking to bust your balls or anything, but throughout this thread you talk about how YOUR building this bad *** car.... Truth is its only a mustang with a damn chevy, anyone could do this... Im sure you will have fun with it.. but you claim your building this car, yet I read its at someones shop to have a cage put in.... Someone else is doing the motor... What the hell are you doing other than paying other people to do the work????


Hell anyone can build a car that way....


If you trully want to run your flap on here and earn the respect you think you should be getting from the get go... learn what the hell your doing, and do the work yourself... Most of us on here build our own cars from ground up...

You come on here asking for advice, yet you seem to have the answers for everything... instead of listening to what others on here are offering for advice, you typicly act like the kid you are and jump on everyones **** for making comments about putting a chevy on a ford...

As for your comment of old school hot rods... You couldnt even come close to understand what went into building one until you build one.. and I dont mean send it here or there to have stuff done for you...

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Well. for your information. i dont NOT own a tig welder otherwise i would weld the roll cage myself! but then again i am not the greatest at tig welding and i am not about to weld it together with a MIG, and i want the cage to be as safe as possible so that is why i had it sent to my friends shop so he could weld it. also i want it to be certified. i am having the engine professionally built for me at a place in texas that builds race engines because i want the most power i can get since im on a budget ALSO BECAUSE I AM NOT A FREAKING WYOTECH GRAQDUATE! The things i am doing. well sir. i am WORKING FULL TIME 48 HOURS A WEEK WORKING NIGHTS FROM 10PM TO 7AM, so that i can have the privilege of being able to race on the weekends and because i cant build the engine or weld the roll cage because i dont have the time to do that! and because i want it to be as professional as possible! and as for old school hotrods. i know about that stuff buddy my grandpa is a hot rodder he grew up in the 50's and 60's building street rods and is all into that stuff and has even had a 32' 5 window coupe that he built and sold on the barret jackson collector car auction. if you dont think i know anything about street rods then i suggest you get on the barret-jacksons site and search for lot #1346 a red 32 ford 5 window coupe because that was my grandfathers.

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Wow, pages of bickering. Different approach would of avoided all this. Your young full of piss and vinigar, good for you.

Hows this;
If your just getting into racing I would say build a modest street car and tow it to the track. Nothing worse then breaking a car and needing a ride home. Why a modest street car? Because you are starting out and it is more fun/better experience to learn running against others at your level (street or sportsman) then building a 11 flat car and being lumped in with the 50year olds with 35years experience.(pro/super pro)
It's not the car, it's seat time that will win you races.

Or, you can build a race car, but make it run 12.50-13.50 with deadly consistency and have fun.

Or, you can build a all out 10.50 race car, show up at a track with a "I can do it all" attitude and be on the trailer first round all summer long. By the end of the summer you'll be upset/tired/sick of it and you won't enjoy racing and quit. And yes that includes running 10.50, scaring the crap out of yourself, but after your used to it being bored running 12 flat.

As far as the chebby in a ford, if your an antagonistic kind of guy (which it appears here, you are) then whatever, do what you want. But there is no excuse anymore to run a chebby motor in a ford. If your a chebby guy, then your just using a ford body for your engine because chebby cars suck so bad. There is a couple of fox body mustangs around here with sbc's in them. One particular one went from a reliable 12.00 second 351W to a 11.30 350sbc but has scattered 3 engines in the 3 years since the change, so whatever floats your boat I guess.
You understand it's a BRACKET race eh? The ET isn't as important as having fun and being consistent. (regardless of the make of the car or engine)

Have fun, enjoy the hobby, just ease up on the attitude a bit. (yeah we were all that young and wound up at one time, I went with fords because NOBODY else ran them..I was the antagonistic one! LOL!)

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hey buddy i didnt join this forum to bicker... i posted in the bracket forum because i'm building a bracket car but considering the engine i was building and all the things I'm doing to it i wanted to know whether or not it should just be a street/ strip car or a full drag car.. and i joined because i wanted some professional opinions but all i got was negative nonsense and put downs and making me out to be some young punk kid. thats not who i am. im NOT some young punk kid. its my first time building a race car and i dont have anybody else to help me out and give me advice. the only guy on here that really helped me out was Sean Kennedy. hes not a jerk like these other guys on this thread. its just a damn shame there aren't that many more people in the world like him. but i guess if it makes those old farts feel good to bash on the young guys then thats fine we'll just see what the results are on race day. BUT back to the subject. like you were saying about building a 12.50 car yeah im pretty sure its gonna be running around there maybe faster. just depends on the ole budget. i kinda gotta lighten up on the build because im currently not working now and because of my bills. so that stuff has to come first. (GOD DAMNIT I HATE BILLS!!!!) about the engine... i dont know much about ford engines as much as i do chevys and plus this engine was affordable to have built and so thats why i chose the 350. but i dont think im gonna be able to get the car race ready by my deadline which was around march through may... but anyways yeah most likely 12's for the ole chev-stang... just a fun weekend bracket car :D

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Fox body stripped down for racing should be 2700 or so. (less if using fibreglass or chromemolly etc) So I would say 300-350hp should be enough to have fun with. A 5.0 with cam and aftermarket heads/intake/headers on a stock 5.0gt shortblock will give you enough.(5.0gt's come stock with forged pistons,roller cam, bottom end good for 6500rpm) or you can run a 351. Chevies can be cheaper but the cost of sbf to sbc is really minimal now.

So, you got a sbc, glide or t350, 4:11 rear gear. Don't wind it too tight as that will eat your budget. Sub frame connectors, update the rear arms(axle?) all the standard fox tricks and you'll have fun. When you want to go faster build the motor up a bit, but don't go crazy as it's a bracket car. You'll have more fun in a more consistent reliable car if you run a bbf or bbc at 5500-6000 all day long then 7500-8000rpm small block and changing springs etc every half season.

Yeah I'm a big ford guy and don't like to see crossbreading as there is no excuse for it anymore, but I'm not going to scream and jump up and down about what somebody else is doing....unless they're in my face about it.

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im most def gonna find a t350 tranny for sure i found a decently priced one and its a B&M TH-350 street/strip automatic because its only like 840 bucks i believe. also my friend mentioned to me that i should get some ladder bars so im gonna look into buying those.

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I was not going to get into this thread. I am also not going to start bashing anyone. But when I first started reading this thread. I did not take it as hard as the thread starter, but I did think that the first replies were inappropriate at least until some positive replies were made, first. Then some kidding can happen. Why start out on someone new right off the bat.
Now if any of you knew me. You would know that I am one of the harshest $#!^ talkers you'll meet. I find it fun. All of my close friends are the same. We are to the point that outsiders think that we are about to throw down. I am 43 years old and have some friggen miles on me. A single dad with a smart *** talking 14 year old girl. but one thing that I have taught her in being a good smart *** and make people laugh. Is to know WHEN to do it.
I am done with that and could give a crap what anyone thinks so do not start with me.
NOW dragster2006
I got to say kid. You got some spunk. You do need to let some of that crap roll off ya pal. You will be better for it. Thicken up that skin, buddy. You will. With age. But God Bless ya. You do what you are doing. GO FOR IT!! I am 43 years old and have let everything get in my way to ever getting to build the race car I have always wanted. Just always worked on other people's race cars as my 71 Camaro stays in pieces for 13 years.
As for cross breading. Do not listen to anyone of those guys out that that goofs on that and tells you that you will not get any respect. I think these 3 examples would QUITE disagree with that kind of thinking.
FIRST
Just ask this guy here in Phoenix with this killer Camaro . Do you see what is on the hood scoop? This guy is a long time racer that if any of those guys would say that crap to him. He would just laugh at um. He gets a kick out of it. Oh yea. he gets plenty of respect. If you are a fan of Pinks All Out. Picture this car red. He made it to the final round in one episode and got air time on a second episode. I do not think that there are many racers out there that have been on the air on any of the Pinks shows, twice. He is also a very nice guy. He gets respect.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...drags09038.jpg
SECOND
There was this killer looking and running West Coast Super Gas 68 Mustang that was owned and driven by a long time racer named, Jim Israel. Jim had a BIG BLOCK CHEVY under the hood and he taunted the " purists" with a little quote of his on the deck lid that said, " Built FORD tough with CHEVY stuff." He made it in a few finals in his day. Also seen that car in a few issues of the late great magazine Bracket Racing USA.
...and LAST
Back in 1974. there were these three unknown boys out of Texas that took there "Chevy" powered "Ford" Maverick to the Winternationals and won Modified Eliminator. I think they got some respect. They really got allot of respect when they dominated in NHRA and IHRA Pro Stock in the early 80s. There names were Buddy Morrison, David Reher and Lee Shepherd.
Kid, I think your car is going to be kick ***. Do it when you can. I cannot wait to see it finished.
Matt

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Matt, I couldn't thank you enough for your post! lol im really not a little punk like these guys say i am lol im actually quite a nice person haha but anyways. Pinks All Out was originally where I got the idea to build my car because I saw one that was a little bit newer than mine. i think it was like a 92 i believe that thing had a 350 or a 383 in it and it was tearing everybody up on there and I was like hey. i could build one of those for real cheap and that thing could be a really fast car! so here i am today 1/3rd through the build. roll cage done, engine HALF WAY paid off lol but still a lot of parts i have to buy which really sucks because i dont have the money to pay for them so im tryin my best to save what little i have after bills are paid. lol

That camaro in that picture, most definitly i saw that episode because I'm a die hard pinks fan! that camaro was hardcore on that episode! (kinda looks like my old 75 camaro (i'll post pictures of it)) so did he paint it blue after that? or was this picture before he painted it red? either color works for me LOL! like em both! oh and gotta add this too GOTTA LOVE THAT REHER-MORRISON POWER!!!!! (which i wish i had) LOL!

heres the pictures of the 75 camaro me and my were working on about a year and a half. maybe 2 years ago but he sold randomly... lol looks way to similar haha.

again Matt. thanks for the encouragement friend!!!

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...d74f3862e3.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...2b0e2c5575.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...dadef6a22d.jpg

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Years ago a guy from Pa (I think his name was Bob Hall) bracket raced an early black Camaro in Div 1
Super Pro with a 440 Mopar.He had a Direct Connection decal on the front fender.I liked that car.

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Dragster2006
I took that photo last Saturday night at Firebird International Raceway. That was taken in the staging lanes, but earlier that night. I was walking around the pits and I had seen the car earlier. Me being a very big Camaro fane. Especially 2nd Gens. Also love the color Blue. I had to go look at that car. When I was the guy just walked up to me and asked me something about an announcement over the PA. I recognized him right away and I just asked him if this was the red car he ran on "Pinks" and if he still had the FORD in it. He smiled and said ,'Yea" then told me that the red paint was falling off the car. I think he told me that he saw a Toyota truck that color blue with the stripes and liked it. So he painted the car that way. Just wanted a change. Real nice guy. I saw that he had a name of transmission shop on the car. I should have asked him if that was his shop. If so. I might go to him for the tranns for my 71 Camaro.
On another note about that episode of pinks. You remember the winner. The guy with the green 86 Firebird S/G. That is the dad of a racing family here locally. the Dolezal family. You remember that his wife was on that show in the final 8 cars with a S/C dragster. You remember their son adn daughter in the lanes with them? Well they all have race cars. I see them at all the races at Firebird and sometimes at our other track on the other side of the valley, Speedworld Raceway Park. The daughter use to run the mom's old s/c Vega, but at this years Div 7 opener at Firebird. They had a new family car that I think the daughter was driving. So I bet this is where the "Pinks" money went into. LOL This was a really well built , very pro looking race car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../08NATS025.jpg
This just shows what the show "PINKS ALL OUT" is doing for our sport for the little guys. I think that it is one of the best things to happen to Drag Racing. I hope to maybe one day have my Camaro done and be able to get a crack at being on that show.
Hey, I like your Camaro. Do you still have it?
Oh yea, Disturbed is one of my favorite bands, too. Saw them on this tour. AWESOME live band. Dan Donegan is one of the best Metal guitair players today in my opinion. They are a close 2nd to my favorite band. SlipKnoT. I was thinking about naming my Camaro when it is done, "Psychosocial"
I would post some pics of my Camaro, but there really is not much to see right now. LOL!
Race On...
Matt

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yup! most certainly i remember that episode now! that green firebird hauled *** on there. but i was thinking that the red camaro was a different episode lol just proves i need to watch pinks all out more (been watching Pass Time way too much! I LOVE THAT SHOW!) lol so they used their 10k on that chevy 2? damn. 10k can sure go a long way! i could halfway build a comp eliminator car!!!! haha (I wish...) that 75 camaro of ours... we dont have it anymore my dad sold about 2 years ago cause hes a jackass and never finishes anything he starts lol damn shame. that thing was set up for nitrous and had a 10 pound empty bottle of nitrous in the back of it lol so yeah the person who started building the car had intentions of going VERY fast lol and the radiator in the car apparently was very expensive. all of the front clip was fiberglass, the fenders, the front end, the hood. so yeah the guy who put it all together was wanting to go very very fast. and i couldnt stop playing with the hammer shifter it had in it lol that thing was cool! but i tell you what... my dad could not make up his damn mind on what color that car was gonna be. he was thinking about painting it yellow with black racing stripes like the transformers camaro (since that camaro was the same year as ours) but he didnt paint it that way. he painted it blue with white racing stripes as you can see. but that didnt last he painted it white with orange racing stripes (which i thought was nice... but i liked the blue with white racing stripes better...) So you like Disturbed and Slipknot?! Dude so do i. lol i saw them at the mayhem festival in Bonner Springs, KS THEY KICKED ***! EPIC CONCERT.

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I do not know the Dolezals , personally. So I do not know for a FACT that this car is what they spent that 10k on. I was just speculating because it popped up at the track in their pits with their name on it after that episode. They are a racing family with a bunch of race cars. So they have the "Scratch" to play. They use to have this really nice little blue Vega that i think the mom ran. then the daughter ran it. Then I saw this Nova with, I think the daughter's name on it. Like I said. I do not know them personally. I am just at most of the races around here and see them run all of the time.
Man that Camaro was sweet. Your dad not only should have kept it, but also should have ran with the "Transformers" theme. My daughter is way into the Transformers and LOVES the 75 Bumblebee Camaro. I am putting black stripes on our Camaro because she wanted them on there because of Bumblebee. She is 14 now and has already told me that when she is 16. She wants a yellow 75 Camaro. She even wants to make it all "Junked" up to look like the movie car. She had me take her to a car show a few years ago that had one of the 75 camaro movie cars. I was all over that car with my camera.
Yea we were at the Mayham show last summer. Then we went to see Slipknot again last March. We were going to go to Cali to see them in Hollywood tomorrow, but funds are tight. I raised her on Metal and drag racing. She did not take to the drag race, but went way on the metal side. She is a drummer because of Slipknot and wants to be in bands. That is cool. I use to be in metal bands in the 80s. She said that she will drive the car if we were to get it built and start racing it. But she will not watch the drags at all or go to them anymore. She helps a little on the car. But her choice is to go to her room and play drums. I'm ok with that.
I do not have the cash to tub my Camaro. But I am thinking about in boarding the shocks and mini tub it. Just to get a little more room. I want to race it when we are done with it, but I am not going hard core with it like I was first going to do. I want to keep it street legal and I want to enjoy going to the cruise hang outs. It is going to pull double duty. My first engine is not going to be much. I can only build what I can, but I want the car to be built so that I can up grade to a stronger engine later. So my car will be a bit overkill for the first engine. But that is better then having to cut the car up every time I get a new engine for it. So it is getting a cage and sub frame connectors. The mini tubs yada yada yada.
When we took it off the road back in 97. It was only running high 15s. That was great, seeing that it started out when we first took it to the track to pull a 17.5 LOL. I just kept messing with it. I think it got faster more because I kept making the car lighter and lighter. I also made my own tracking bars that really worked. Hey the X wife and I just had a kid and she stayed home for that first year. I had to make my traction bars if I wanted a set. They worked great. They also looked like I went to LOPER'S and bought them. The good kind, not the "Strap-on" show ones. They worked so good that I will be keeping them. I made them adjustable and the way I would want them. They work great and I can tune them. Later I can go to something like Cal-Tracks if I want to. but I am not so much of a "I got it because it is the gotta have stuff" kind of guy. I am just into having fun with my car and I like building and fabricating most everything on the car myself. I am not much of a store bought parts, car builder. Again, I do this all in fun. I am an old man with a 38 year old car. I ain't ever gonna be taking Jason Line's job from him.
One day the car will be my kids. I do not plan on ever selling it. It was the car that brought her home from the hospital. She will never let me forget that. LOL! It is HER'S. Se told me so. LOL!
matt

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lol yeah that camaro you got is gonna be bitchin when its done! i was looking about a 70 camaro on racing junk that was for 750 before i got the mustang but that thing needed so much work to it. the body was great and all and it had all the parts but i dont think i'd have the time nor the balls to attempt finish it lol heres the picture i took of it... i doesnt look too great but the body was pretty much flawless. just dirty as hell...

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...0771_30860.jpg

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I was just sitting around and watching this fiasco.... HEY KID!!!... do yourself a favor... get in touch with some people that race seriously.... Divisional Event and/or National Event style racing.... get on a crew and learn the sport... it really is fun and by doing this you'll see exactly what it is about and get a good direction on where you want to go... and how much it might cost to be competitive...

I HATE all these young guys talking about street cars or street/strip cars... if that's the way you wanna go, you will end up hurting youself, or God forbid, some innocent bystander or pedestrian.... racing is meant to be done on a track... a safe environment... STREET IS NOT NEAT!!!!!

If you wanna cross breed parts and cars, have at it... I'm all about working with what you have... and it sounds like you could put together a really fun bracket car if you stick to it and keep asking questions... you will never know it all, so keeping asking... I'm still learning after 30+ yrs of this stuff...

AND please don't call anyone out... you will learn really fast that there are some of us racers out there just waiting for the opportunity to hurt someone's feelings... RIGHT ED!!!... OK, me too... LOL

Take advantage of those willing to help you on this forum... we are all serious about what we do and would love to help... GOOD LUCK with your project.....

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i wasnt planning on calling anybody out i was just very offended and pissed off earlier when those guys were saying all of that nonsense because it was uncalled for and i know i said some stufff too but like i said a bunch before... i posted in the bracket part of the forum because i didnt think people would really care much about a chevy engine in a ford know what i mean?

crossbreeding... i dont really refer to it as that... i call it wat you said... working with what i have... just sucks right because of the financial crap... the car is just sitting there... its quite depressing LOL :(

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Don't feel too bad. I've been working on mine since 2002 and still have a long way to go.

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What did the Guy on Pinks Say " Ford Makes it and Chevy Shakes it!!!:):):):):):)

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some of these guys on this site are true racing legends, have fun with whatever you do but please realize you may never have this chance again to say you talked to "so and so" . raceing will get into your blood and change your life, take it slow, build what you can afford, have fun and learn everything u can from these guys! wish i had this advise when i started. or even a computer. lol...
p.s. mine isn't a ford or chevy either, it's a racecar!

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lol yeah it sucks.. i had a deadline set for it to be done for sometime in april but i dont think its possible lol makes me wana cry!!!!! haha

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Charlie
I respect your views and your time in the sport. You have some very good advice here. But one thing you said here that I quite disagree with you. First all I NEVER suggested that anyone race on the streets when I talked about a Street/Strip car. I have never and never will race on the streets. When I said "Street/ Strip car I ment a car that can be bracket raced and also be driven on the street legally. I am also not a "Young Guy" that has never been in the trenches of race competition. I am 43 years old and have been in all kinds of very competitive race teams over the years. From NHRA to NASCAR Busch Grand National racing.
Also the very first, very real race team I was on and also was a big part of the building of the car. was a full on, very competitive, very serious race car that the owner of that car drove it on the street to the local cruises and sometimes even to work on a nice day. Him doing that was apart of one of our major sponsor's deals. Arizona Speed and Marine wanted to make a point that thier product that we were pushing, is that they made a very streetable and racing competitive product. So the car had to be very streetable. We ran very well in Super Pro back in the late 80s. The car got on the cover of, I think it was Pontiac Magazine. We were also sponsored by Rockford Fosgate so we had allot of responsibility to our sponsors. It was also in the contract that if we were to EVER race on the streets. We would be dropped on the spot. Yes the car was allot of work, but it was fun and very popular at the track. We won or made into many final rounds. This photo was taken at Firebird International Raceway at the 88 Super Chevy Show ( We got in with our Pontiac because we had a Chevy 400 with the 86 Chevy Vette TPI systems that AS&M redesigned and built ground breaking speed parts for those induction systems.) This was my first race team I was on and I hold those times in allot of ways, higher then my NASCAR days. It was the most original race car I have ever been apart of. The car was all street legal, no tubs on DOT slicks and all full on stock interior, 300 lbs of Rockford Fosgate Stereo system and a car phone.(Rockford wanted that) This was the 80s so a car phone stayed in the car. The car went into the high 9s on Nos. I always wondered what we could have done without all of that not needed stuff, but we got paid to have it. BTW I was the guy that always wanted to shed the RF stwereo crap and get the car off of the street. but looking back. That was the part of the car that got us alot of the attention.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...racecar002.jpg

The last I heard of this car. It sold in the early 90s at the Barrett/Jackson auto auction. I will say that this car could not have been done without the sponsors.
Rule number on DRAGSTER. Never let ANYONE tell you that it CANNOT BE DONE. It can.

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Man i bet its awesome being sponsored... hopefully in a few years after the cars done and i've been racing a bit maybe i can get the car sponsored by somebody... it would be kinda cool if mallory ignition could be my sponsor considering thats my last name LOL! about that car in the picture... i would of been trying to get rid of the stereo equipment too lol so it sold on the barret-jackson? thats awesome man. my grandpa had one of his coupes sell on there. so you and him have something in common lol

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Hi Matt.... first of all, I'm not looking to prolong the beating of this particular dead horse.... BUT, my reference to "young guys" was a very general statement and did not make reference to anyone on this forum.... my statement was made in a reaction to hearing this guy talking about building car and giving information that would lead one to believe that it may become a powerful street car.... a powerful street car, in a lot of cases, leads to a lot of careless driving... ON THE STREET... so I made reference to my experiences...

Where I'm from, I have a lot of these "young guys" asking advise on how to get their cars to run faster... I know they have no intention of participating in any ORGANIZED drag racing.... but they do claim to race... don't even want to know where and when... but because I race, they are looking for answers...

I can appreciate your start in racing as mine was very similar at the age of 16... however, I think we can agree that there are no longer street/strip cars... if you really think about it.... I learned it when I became a cop 33 years ago and got to pull these "young guys" from their wrecked street/strip cars... and I know it's bracket racing, but NOS belongs in the dentists office... but that's just my opinion.... as is everything else I write...

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Yeah thats exactly what i was planning on doing from the start. screw building a drag car... i just wana go out and street race with the rest of these people my age with their rice burners and maybe end up going head on with a car in the other lane and possibly kill myself. <------ being sarcastic.

Thats not what i wana do. a street/ strip car to me is a car that you can take to cruise nights and race on the weekend. im not a street racer. i do NOT support it at all. my uncle is a cop and if he caught me doing it he would have my car send to the crusher. and if i ever hear of my kids (that i dont have but will in about 10 years) street racing i will take their licenses away and dont let them till they're 21! i understand your point but thats not what i plan on doing with this car. its not going to be a street/ strip car. its gonna be an all out drag car for now.

lol im gonna also add too that im not gonna deny ever street racing... i've done it! but im not a fan of it. i street raced somebody about a year and a half ago. i was house sitting a my grandpas place while he and his girlfriend (which i call grandma) were on vacation in florida. he accidentally left his key to his biscayne at the house (must have forgot it) so i decided to take it out for a spin (this thing has an 6-700 horsepower 468 in it btw) lol well yeah sure enough i raced a couple guys and it scared the **** out of me lol so yeah. i've done it. the damn thing!!! lol but god damn. it was FAST. and it WAS fun. but i will never do that again... i'll just race at heartland park on thursday nights :D

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Ok I'm not sure if anyone replied to the part about ladder bars. You will have no need for them at all. Get yourself a good set of either non adjustable or single adjustable lower tubular arms and a set of double adjustable upper arms and aluminum rear end bushings and an anti roll bar, good shocks and rear springs and your car will be set. I live in Richmond VA and there is a 93 notch back twin turbo car here with stock style suspension(mentioned above) and an anti roll bar in the rear running 7.98 in the quarter mile on true 10.5 tires not 10.5w. And in reference to a Chevy in a Ford if it's what you got use it and most importantly have fun the only draw back is resale I don't know why but it's rare to find someone that wants to buy one but if you plan on keeping the car who really cares about resale. But one thing you will need to learn is take everyones advice especially those older racers because they may joke they may cut you up but in the long run you can learn more from them than anyone else. I too have a mustang I built by hand over several years(see pics in my profile) every single part including paint. The only thing outsourced is my Tranny because my buddy owns a Trans shop and he helped me rebuild it. And the thrill of the build is by far the best experience and if and when something breaks(and it will) you will know how to fix it with your eyes closed because you made it!!!!! Also bracket racing is all about consistancy not who is fastest so focus on safety 1st, chassis and brakes 2nd, then a balls out motor.... and if you haven't bought your $1200.00 lemons headers buy a set of hedman headers for a 70 Chevy Nova they will fit the car with very minimal mods (dent here or there) and unless you are building a full bore race engine as in 15:1 compression huge flowing heads dominator carb etc you won't need those lemmons headers for performance. If you have any questions at all feel free to ask.

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Here is my take on it.I have been at it on and off{racing} for about 20 years now.I went from a street car,to making that street car a gutted out fiberglass and lexan potato chip,to buying and getting my lisence in a dragster,then deciding that if I cant drive something on the street to cruise nights and the local store I couldnt justify owning it.That wasnt to say that I still didnt want to run 9's,I just wanted to do it in a street car that could be bracket raced.I eventually put all the street equipment back onto my car along with all the steel body panels,did a frame off resto,then powered it with a strong running bigblock pump gas engine with all the same elctronics as anybody else.I have to say it was exactly what I needed.There is a big difference between a street/strip car and a street racer.

As an 18 year old kid starting out building your own stuff and not some 2nd generation prince,you should be proud if yoour first serious car can run brackets or 10.90 class.I didnt get into the 10's until I was 25,and into the 9's until I was almost 30.

As for your combo,I will be building such a car myself.I actually bought a car last year but it was an 89 hatch and had paperwork issues,I got it for nothing,but what I really wanted was a notch with a clean title so I could drive it on the street.I wanted to put my bigblock in it since it would have been about 600# lighter then my car and I dont have a cage in my car and dont want to cut up a car I spent 5 years restoring.

Here are some real helpful tips for you.Your car isnt the lightest Mustang out there.An 84-86 Notch with no options is the best choice for weight.The rear suspention setup is fine in all Mustangs.Many shops know the basics secrets to making them work.Frame connectors,a rollbar that is tied to the rear upper control arm mounts/Welding all the control arm mounts on the body to the floor of the car.Almost all the aftermarket suspention kits work.You would do well just to buy a non adjustable kit and install it with an 8.8" housing,and stock height springs and add an airbag to the passenger side spring.I have done these cars with both big and smallblocks in them,and the big hurdle is the K memeber and the steering shaft in regards to header clearance.Bigblocks actually fit better then smallblocks because the header flanges point down instead of straight out.All the lightweight stuff they sell for the front helps a lot.the tubular K member,and manual rack and shaft,are the 2 biggest upgrades,A 5 lug swap is also a good idea since there are a lot of chevy wheels out there.There is some weight to be had by taking all the sub structure out of the bumpers,deleting the heat/ac system and all that.On a hatch,you can save weight by replacing the hatch with a fiberglass and lexan one.Dont worry about weight over the rear wheels,these cars hook so well and are heavy enough over the back that it wont hurt.Another issue is running a hatch with a fuel cell,you need to close the cell in somehow for it to pass tech.You should be able to get an 89 hatch with glass hood and hatch and all the tricks I mentioned with an aluminum head smallblock and powerglide to be under 2800 without you in it,and still have side windows that roll up and down and lights that work.My opinion is that you sell the car you have and look for a no options notch to put everything in.

No matter how you look at it,you have a good combination.The reliablty of a Chevy engine teamed up with a lightweight body that has one of the best stock chassis setups of any car ever made,unequalled aftermarket support and a racer knowlage base bigger then anything short of a slapper bar camaro..

Good luck

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"im not lucky like a lot of guys my age who their parents cater to them on a silver platter and put them into an already built race car."

Hope my kids are reading this--------

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Everett,

You ignorance amuses me., and your comment irrelevant.

Thanks. :)

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thats some hella good advice and i appreciate you helping me, i dont know if i should sell it right now honestly... i'm racing against time because i really REALLY would like to race at pinks all out in July but due to financial nonsense its put be back on the build... and i really dont think its gonna be done by then... its just a hard time right now. and w/ work and school i just dont have the time... i rarely ever get any time during the weekend to work on it... its just sitting there. (she looks depressed) lol and i tell ya. its a damn shame...

jaw8850 dude you got a nice mustang. its bitchin. 70' nova headers will fit??? damn i didnt know that! haha

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WTF did I do?

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I get the wrong vibe from your earlier comment man. i dont know what to think about it.

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Dragster 2006...I live down the turnpike from you, and my shop is bringing 3 cars to Pinks All Out. Send me a PM and we'd be glad to have you crew with us and start learning. I'd be glad to give you any help you need.

Scott

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sounds like somthing off a pinks episode only with no powerhttp://classracer.com/classforum/ima...ons/icon10.gif

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join the club.its taken me 5 years to collect the parts for my dart.it seemed like forever ,now its time to race.damn,i stillneed a helmet and some slicks.http://classracer.com/classforum/images/icons/icon3.gif

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lol its a lost cause now... i ended up selling it to my friend because of some financial matters awhile back. so thats that. for now i'm focusing my attention on my moms boyfriends car... hes running a full tube chassis thunderbird. its a pretty neat little car... i just think i'm gonna wait on building a drag car for now until i get done with all my school stuff... i'm moving to wyoming in the fall cause i'm going to wyotech and everybody thinks i should just hold off until that is all over... but it was fun working on it while i had it... that 350 went in to a 4x4 so it wasnt wasted! :D

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heh i bracket race my daily driver runs 12.30's in nice weather and I drive it to work the next day. Will sell it soon to finally go rail which I've been wanting to do for yearssssss..