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Stocker 449 05-18-2009 02:47 PM

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The track definately can hold its own. A pro mod went 3.89 at 200 on its second day open. Was going to watch the fuel altereds out there this past Saturday but it rained. Cant wait to see what these wild 10.5 cars do this upcoming weekend. The reason that they were having 1/8th mile passes is because the first pair one of the cars got loose and hit the wall.

Michael Beard 05-18-2009 03:19 PM

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Apparently you are the one "unhappy" because I don't agrre with everything you like.:-)
Huh? :confused: Where do my likes or dislikes come into this? You're more than welcome to dislike 1/8th mile racing. It's not really relevant to the conversation, though. You said, "please don't tell me this is an 1/8th mile track." It is not an 1/8th mile track, and I answered your question. So... what's the problem?

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Are you going to make this race ? Have a nice day
No, sorry Ed. We have a double-header Pro-Am/Sportsman National at Richmond, right up the road, on the same weekend. I've made the crazy long trips to San Antonio and Tulsa before, so I wouldn't rule it out in the future. Looks like a great facility, so if scheduling and such all come together sometime, I'd be more than happy to support them. Good luck next week!

Brandon Peterson 05-18-2009 03:29 PM

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Mike, i think someone is wanting this track to fail....sounds like he has a grudge against them or something...i dunno but it sure looks like a great track and the video on youtube of the pro mod race looks like its a pretty fast track....there is too many people who feel shallow about 1/8 racing...i thought racing was about racing no matter what size or grade of the track we are all here to race and have fun not down our sport or complain because a track or persons racing feel it would be safer to race 1/8 rather than 1/4 mile.....sometimes a decision like that could save someones life

Bart Kilraine 05-18-2009 03:47 PM

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1/8 th. mile is too quick,.it's bad when they use good 1/4 mile tracks and run an 1/8....top whatever want to run 1/8th,let 'em.Give me 1320..."1/8 mile sucks" Bart.

Jim Woods 05-18-2009 06:04 PM

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you have to be on your game to win on the 1/8th mile, no room for recovery for a mistake. Heck, we used to race valve covers down a 4x8 sheet of plywood during the winter and made a series out of it. lol you were classified by how much your valve cover weighed. A true drag racer will race anything.

Ed Wright 05-18-2009 07:13 PM

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I have won at least as many rounds running half track the past couple of years, and don't find any of that "It's harder, you have to be sharper, it will make you better, etc, etc" to be true at all. Same deal, just have to quit sooner. I only run half track under special circumstances. Special races or conditions like dangerous winds. Here at Tulsa one weekend when I was still bracket racing some we were all in the staging lanes they anounced the races would be shortened to 1/8th mile due to the winds. The anouncer told me they heard a car in the staging lanes start, and somebody behind him said "That would be Ed." (It was) Half track (for me) is bad enough, half track brackets? I don't think so. To each his own, likeing one over the other doesn't make you any more or less of a racer than the others.

If that is all there was in my area I would have stayed "retired". To me 130 MPH is a lot more fun than 106. If you live in a rural area with nothing but short tracks, that is what you are stuck with. If drag racing is still that new to you, I imagine you would probably like it just fine as long as you just get to race. It doesn't make you any more of a "real racer" than the people that can afford the time and money to drive to 1/4 mile tracks he or she prefers. Some don't feel quiting earlier and running slower is "real racing". Others like it just fine. You have the freedom to do whichever you prefer. It's America, right?

Bimbo Jones 05-19-2009 08:50 AM

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Quarter mile racing is way cool, but if you need to sharpen your finish line skills. Eight mile racing will sure help with that. Quarter mile tracks almost feel like slow motion and double the time for decision making at the stripe. DFW area now has 5 really excellant tracks, 3 eight mile and 2 quarter mile tracks. I just hope there is a strong enough market around here for them all to be successful.

Ed Wright 05-20-2009 08:45 PM

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Does anybody have a link to the flyer for this race? I can't find a stinking thing. I'm old.

danny waters sr 05-20-2009 08:52 PM

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Go to IHRA web ( nitrojam.com ) and look to the left and click on texas race. Scroll down to where it says complete schedule and it should pop up .

Adger Smith 05-21-2009 02:49 AM

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Don,
The Pro Mods ran a show there on Friday night, They ran some pretty good times.
The rains came & washed the Fuel altered show out on Sat. They are going back this sat.
My guy walked the track & made some comments about it. It had rubber on it, but after the 1/8th mile the rubber was pulling up in some small spots. He had no reservations about making 1/8 mile A/F altered passes. If the race isn't washed out this weekend I will get more info. I'm pretty sure when the IHRA track prep is applied it will be a hooking track. He said it looked like it had a slight crown, which Ennis doesn't. He said it didn't look like it would be a narrow groove. It might turn out good like it is or it could be like Red River, worked OK, but came around real well after the surface was ground. Time will tell. I would like to be there, but my toter has pitched a head gasket & we haven't had time to fix it. Just too much work at the shop after my 10 day Vacation with my Dad. (his 83rd birthday) I'm still adjusting back to our time.. seems like I'm still on Calif. time. :~) I hope everyone gives it a chance & takes the negative comments for what they are. I've been in the same shoes as the new track owner, When I built the Prescott Ar Track back in the late 70's. we had problems we had to adjust to & the track didn't work with the same prep as My other track in Tyler Tx. or how Hallsville was preped. I never got the early(pre race) negative comments, no internet at that time, but sure got some comments when what we did didn't work. I considered those comments constructive, unlike some of the posts on this forum. Give the owners a chance. They are sure trying(making a big investment) to make a good place for us to race. Good luck to all!

Michael Beard 05-21-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 121408)
Go to IHRA web ( nitrojam.com ) and look to the left and click on texas race. Scroll down to where it says complete schedule and it should pop up .

www.ihra.com -- just look at that great big block in the center of the page with the dragster and the Texas Nationals logo, and the list of links:
< Event Page
< Tickets
< Results
< Photos
< Racer Info
< Directions

Ed Wright 05-21-2009 08:32 AM

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Michael, looked through that last night. I have a friend thinking about coming, but was wanting to know about the entry fee, payouts, etc. I didn't fin that listed. They had spectator ticket prices and the pro schedules, directions, etc. Not what he was wanting t know. Trying to bring over another NHRA racer.

RHINO 05-21-2009 09:17 AM

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Ed i talked to Chris Jackson last night and i believe he told me entry was $170.00, your guess is as good as mine on payout.

Ed Wright 05-21-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RHINO (Post 121457)
Ed i talked to Chris Jackson last night and i believe he told me entry was $170.00, your guess is as good as mine on payout.


I wonder if they are using VHT or that crap HRP was using for track prep. It acted just like Baton Rouge. Wonder which Baton Rouge used? Both got good when the clouds came over. Here at the Tulsa national event last summer IHRA brought their own stuff (VHT) and did all the prep. Hope they do the same down there. I think I'll go there instead of Topeka. Wish I could run both.

Steves68Nova 05-21-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RHINO (Post 121457)
Ed i talked to Chris Jackson last night and i believe he told me entry was $170.00, your guess is as good as mine on payout.

This is in the back of Drag Review. IHRA's house mag.

QR and SS

win 1200
r/u 600
5th rd win 250
4th rd win 200
3rd rd win 150
2nd rd win 100
1st rd win 50

SR, HR, and Stock

win 1000
r/u 500
5th rd win 250
4th rd win 200
3rd rd win 150
2nd rd win 100
1st rd win 50

rd money not paid to finalists

ET win 2000
r/u 1000
5th rd win 400
4th rd win 200
3rd rd win 100
2nd rd win 50

They have to have 64 cars signed up by the 23rd or ET dropped. Thats box and no box togather. Also if it is like Tulsa, you can run ET and sportsman class.

The below was sent to me for the Tulsa race. I am assuming the same is for Dallas.

--/quote/---
1- The Purse below is what we'll use for the ET Race
Box - $2,000 to Win, $1,000 R/U, $50 per round starting with 2nd rd losers
No Box - $1,500 to Win, $750 R/U, $5 0 per round starting with 2nd rd losers
2- Both the Box and No Box Winner will get an Ironman
3- Motorcycles will be allowed to run in the Box Class
4- Entry is $190 per class and $150 for each additional class
5- "Joe Racer" will be allowed to run the same car in both the ET Class and a Sportsman Class
---/unquote/---

If TD and TS are needed I can type them in.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

PS : I am not responsible for mistakes!

Oh yea Entrys

Car and driver 150
Insurance surcharge 40
Crewman 70
Junior 6-12 $5 per day

All drivers must have current IHRA membership, license, and perm #

danny waters sr 05-21-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 121462)
I wonder if they are using VHT or that crap HRP was using for track prep. It acted just like Baton Rouge. Wonder which Baton Rouge used? Both got good when the clouds came over. Here at the Tulsa national event last summer IHRA brought their own stuff (VHT) and did all the prep. Hope they do the same down there. I think I'll go there instead of Topeka. Wish I could run both.

IHRA always preps the tracks we go to. It will work. !

treessavoy 05-21-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bart Kilraine (Post 120970)
1/8 th. mile is too quick,.it's bad when they use good 1/4 mile tracks and run an 1/8....top whatever want to run 1/8th,let 'em.Give me 1320..."1/8 mile sucks" Bart.

Excuse me but can you tell me how you manage to race 1/4 mile without racing 1/8th mile....just wondering.

Tree

Ed Wright 05-21-2009 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 121481)
Excuse me but can you tell me how you manage to race 1/4 mile without racing 1/8th mile....just wondering.

Tree

You don't quit at half track?

Ed Wright 05-21-2009 01:02 PM

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Thanks Steve and Danny!

I let a friend have both my weekly papers, and he had already picked up last weeks.

Also, good to know the track will hook like in the past.

Popular question at Houston (Especially among the small tire cars) was "Are your 60's off this weekend?" I was asked that at least five times. Bumper scraping was not a problem for me.

Marc Kinton 05-21-2009 01:08 PM

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hey...over 4,000 views....somebody is interested. I sure hope that this race is attended and enjoyed by lots of racers and spectators. This is a NICE facility that deserves to be supported. I will be in Richmond with Michael but hopefully will take the trek out someday myself. Weinert has been there for a few weeks and I have seen first hand what he can do with not so nice places so I have no doubt that this place will be ready.

either way, go, support the track, support the series, win you a race, come to Rockingham in October and win you $10k....what is so bad about that?

John Kelley 05-21-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Kinton (Post 121500)
hey...over 4,000 views....somebody is interested. I sure hope that this race is attended and enjoyed by lots of racers and spectators. This is a NICE facility that deserves to be supported.

They need to start a MEDIA PUSH as I've seen nothing on TV news or newspapers about the track in the DFW area.It needs to get PUMPED UP !! Drag Racing is kind of the "redheaded stepchild" of auto racing anyway! If it was anything concerning NASCAR it'd be all over the news.SAD BUT TRUE !! If I didn't frequent this forum and others I wouldn't know about this track or race.BUT.....IHRA is growing in TEXAS and with Caddo Mills,Abilene,Amarillo and others it should grow more.
I sure hope the weather gives them a break next weekend !!

Ed Carpenter 05-21-2009 03:56 PM

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Weather channel showing chance for rain. Hope not. Temps looks good. Suppose to be in the 70's.

Michael Beard 05-21-2009 06:02 PM

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http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/D...Nationals.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emNCrCGJaU

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...xas-nationals/

http://www.fastdoorslammers.com/foru...ead.php?t=3609

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tix/1178814392.html

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...8&Main=5223112

http://www.whowon.com/sResultsDates.asp?SanctionID=211

http://texascitizen.com/?cat=6&paged=11

http://www.topix.com/city/crandall-tx

Ed Wright 05-22-2009 01:06 PM

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Surprise, surprise.

John Kelley 05-22-2009 02:27 PM

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Uhhhh.....NOTHING from the DALLAS MORNING NEWS or Ft.WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM or other papers and TV stations in the DFW area ???

Michael Beard 05-22-2009 05:41 PM

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Have you contacted them, or IHRA, or Dallas Raceway?

danny waters sr 05-22-2009 09:56 PM

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Tommy Dupree should be there by now and you should see and here a lot about this race. I will be there ,come by and see me at tech. Hope to meet some of my distant internet friends

John Kelley 05-22-2009 10:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 121724)
Have you contacted them, or IHRA, or Dallas Raceway?

I'm not in the media........have no need to.
i'm just worried that if this track doesn't draw people it will flounder and close down.And that's the last thing I want to happen !
The media isn't HIP on dragracing and tend to ignore it in the DFW area. BUT if it's NASCAR or the Cowboys they are all over it !! Almost any day of the year there's an article on Romo or the Cowboys in the paper or on TV news Drag Racing has to JUN|MP in their face and SCREAM to get noticed !
I'd like to see them drag some sports reporter from the DFW TV stations and put them in cars for a bracket race ! Maybe a double header in one day with some "name" drivers coaching ! I'd like to see the stands packed next weekend by FIRST time spectators and get them HOOKED !

Steves68Nova 05-23-2009 09:06 AM

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I was looking at the Dallas Raceway website and the rules for the ET class are different than Tulsa. Tulsa is allowing you to run same car in ET and sportsman, but Dallas is not from what I understand.

---/quote/--- from Dalls website

This year, we need to pre-register a total of 64 cars by May 23rd, 2009 in order to have the ET race at the National event. The 64 cars needed includes both Box and No Box entries. If we fail to pre-register the 64 cars needed by the deadline, the ET Race will be excluded from the Amalie Longhorn Nationals and your money will be refunded.

Don't forget, this year you can enter both in the ET Race and in a Sportsman Class as long as you have a different car to run in each class. Cost for the ET Race is $190 per entry and you must be an IHRA member.

Please do not hesitate to call if you have any questions or comments regarding the pre-registration process.

Details:

$2,000.00 Win
$1,000.00 RU
+ contingency

ET Class - Box (0-12.99) / No-Box (9.00-19.99)
Final Box vs No-Box for winner/runner-up money and contingencies.
Each winner receives an Iron Man!
Lane choice is determined by lane you pull in.
Odd number lanes = left lane, even number lanes = right lane.
If only one lane of cars left, first car in pair gets choice.
Laddered at 8 or less.
Laddered cars determine lane choice among themselves.
Bye Runs - 1st round determined by best RT from qualifying.
All others from previous round until laddered.
Byes do not carry over.
---/unquote/---


---/quote/---from Tulsa website

This year we need to pre-register a total of 64 cars by May 31st, 2009 in order to have the ET race at the National event. The 64 cars needed includes both Box and No Box entries. If we fail to pre-register the 64 cars needed by the deadline, the ET Race will be excluded from the Sooner Nationals and your money will be refunded.

1- The Purse below is what we'll use for the ET Race
Box - $2,000 to Win, $1,000 R/U, $50 per round starting with 2nd rd losers
No Box - $1,500 to Win, $750 R/U, $50 per round starting with 2nd rd losers
2- Both the Box and No Box Winner will get an Ironman
3- Motorcycles will be allowed to run in the Box Class
4- Entry is $190 per class and $150 for each additional class
5- "Joe Racer" will be allowed to run the same car in both the ET Class and a Sportsman Class

Now.... NO MORE EXCUSES... Get your rear in gear and get signed up for the Sooner Nationals ET Class.
---/unquote/---

Don't know if it mattered to anyone, but wanted to make sure I was right. At Tulsa you could have extra runs to get your car running the number ifyou were running a .90 car.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

Jackie McCracken 05-23-2009 10:42 AM

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I have to defend the Texas Motorplex and the comment on all the crashes there. Having run at that track since it opened and seen a BUNCH of crashes there including a couple of fatalities I can tell you that other than the case where something on the car broke they were ALL caused by people driving over their heads and or doing something stupid! Blaming that track is just a pretty lame excuse for some bad driving in every instance I witnessed.

Jackie McCracken


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