Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 105217)

Modified was great but lets talk about the bad side....costs and breakage. Everytime something new came out you had to have it. Driveline breakage was pretty bad and engine breakage could also put you out of action quickly. We raced a car out of our shop in C/SM. I recall one run at Maple Grove where we broke the clutch, fixed it in a hurry and the car wouldn't move after replacing the clutch. The trans was also broken and the rear had damage as well we later found out. Folded the splines on some axles........took the motor out and apart practically after every race to puff it up. Other guys that had machine work done at our shop had all the same stories. I recall one guy built his own engine for D/MP and he was a very competetive car.....the engine blew up on T/K's dyno and that ended that racers drive to continue. Another guy was the class winner from the E-Town SummerNationals and won pretty regularly with it. He blew his engine and sold the car.....My friend bought it to replace his Camaro.....becasue the Novas were better? When we went to pick it up an exhaust valve head fell out of one of the headers.....The guy said....."so thats where that went!" The costs were too high for the average guy to keep up with. I loved the category but I saw a ton of breakage, Only the top guys had all the best stuff to try and limit that breakage.....

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 105445)

FJ...I guess it is mostly how commited you are to the sport. Your abilities are much higher than the average guy I would have to say. From the cars that you build/built and for your on track performance as well. Everyone knew you and your cars.....I know we did....We were a small engine shop and tried to promote the business and field a couple of cars in various classes. We did not have the budget for it I can tell you that and we did work hard. My friend and co-workers C/SM car (Dennis Siderko), qualified #3 at E-Town behind Billy Mansell and Garley Daniels one year and we were subsequently tossed in teardown for some marks further than 1/2" into the intake port. It was a real arbitrary call and we agrued it for a longtime but got nowhere. That single event was very devastating to our efforts. We continued but it was never the same after that. Many of the guys I recall were garage owners or other various automotive business owners. The guys running at the top of the category like Arlen Fadley were a long way from many of the weekend racers. We did pretty well here and there but it was tough to keep up and the amount of time and work needed was real tough to sustain.........nice talking to you.....Rich

Originally Posted by SPS (Post 105437)

Robert/ Rich:

I think that most of us involved at the time would argue about the cost or sophistication of the Modified cars of the time. {yes, this was 30 years ago, not today} . These were well-built cars , as good as the parts available.
Examples would be Arlen Fadley's Maverick,{one of my toughest competitors}, arguably one of the first body-in-white cars ever built. Or my own Camaro, built in the mid 70's with a 4-link under the stock floor and stock frame rails {within the rules of the time}.

Remember, we raced at least 3 times a week and made probably 4 times as many runs a year as today.

I don't agree that it took buckets of money to race or be competitive as I sure didn't have a lot.. Instead , hard work and determination was the key to success. No crying when you got beat. Instead you went home and went to work. {sometimes I'm amazed we did that much work}

One of the best parts in my memory of Modified was the recognition by your competition when you ran well. No hard feelings here, just excellent competition by a close-knit group of racers with the same competitive spirit.

FJ

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 105328)

Anyone have any pics of the Baldwin Chevrolet / Motion Performance Camaro driven by Dennis Ferrara in A/MP, and B/MP? That was one of my favorite Modified Eliminator cars.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 105829)

Batten was /is in the Detroit area hooked up with diamond Pistons and did have Batten Heads not sure if they are still in businees tho-Comp 387

Originally Posted by Tom P (Post 105480)

The same Mike Edwards who seemed to be doing OK in Pro Stock yesterday ?

Is the Jim Head listed the current funny car guy?

Nice to hear FJ pipe in on this.
I only ever saw the last season of the class though some of the cars continued to run a few years afterwards. What flywheels did you guys run?

It seemed to take longer to wind down after being revved than my bench grinder. :)

Originally Posted by david ring (Post 105325)

Looking at the last three names on this page, I know that Ed Sigmon is still racing comp and Sherman Sligh just built a manifold for a new comp motor, but did that guy Danny Jesel ever amount to anything?

Thanks Tom for posting these.

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 105980)

If this was answered and I missed it, I appoligize. yes, that is the same Mike Edwards. I'm in Tulsa, Mike's race shop is about fifteen miles from my business. It's located between Broken arrow and Coweta. Two small towns next to Tulsa. My C/SM Camaro was a blast, but as Rich said, it about broke me. I finally had to give up in 1979. I began break parts much faster than I could buy them. If I had any sense, I would have stayed away. Super Stock now is not near as much fun as Modified was then. Unless you luck into a heads-up, it's become basically a friggin bracket race. You had to actually know how to make one fast then, and most guys did their own work. Not nearly as many "check book" racers as now. If you weren't reasonably fast you went home real early. One year at Indy there were so many C/SMs, if I remember correctly, seems like they ran a round of us the day before the other classes to thin us out. I took one of my too-frequent naps in the semis of class. I remember like fifty C/MP, C/SM, and I think about that many F/MP in different years. I remember Dick Moroso in C/MP with his Vette "Spastic Plastic". Very nice guy. More cars than classes then. Nowhere to hide from the fast guys. Somebody fast in every class. Now NHRA has become like the old AHRA, way too many classes.

Btw, Billy Mansell put his on the pedal wood when the 1st amber came on, and held it there until time to go. Billy was one of the nicest racers I ever met. Really a great guy. His mechanical tach's tattle-tail was always past ten grand after a run. Pete Smith's too. Loved to watch those cars. With those 50lb flywheels, some guys might have had a problem with these new three amber trees. :D

Originally Posted by Greg Barsamian (Post 105624)

That car was purchased by Les Lucier & Jim Reid. A gentleman in Nebraska restored it and brought it to Barret Jackson 2 years ago, It didnt bring anything close to what he had in the restoration. Last I heard they were in litigation against BJ.

Those of you that recognise Ryan Ondrejko's 62 Corvette, that is the very car that went "heads-up" for the A/MP record in 1972. Joel Rosen & Dennis Ferrera made the trek to Lebanon Valley & ran away with the record that year. The Corvette was Owned by Vince Barletta, built & maintained by Wes Nester from Worcester Mass. The 62 was called The "Plastic Rat" It featured an all-Aluminum ZL-1 engine built by Jim Reid at Reid's Automotive. The car was always a "hit" with the M/P crowd at the Valley back in those days! Yanking the wheels 2 to 3 feet on every launch!
We stole err borrowed a carrage from the Mammouth Mart one night to make a set of wheelie bars for it so the damb thing wouldn't flip over.

The Baldwin Motion Performance Camaro was "trick" to say the least. Bill Lorenzo & Ed Sarkiaian from SS & DI did a detailed story on that Camaro when Reid & Lussier campained it. They set many records in M/P with that car as well.

Jim Reid Sr & Jim Jr still build & maintain the engines for the 62, currently campained by John & Ryan Ondrejko in Division 1 S/G. They recently won the 2008 NHRA D-1 National Open series championship, and last fall Ryan took "Vinny's Vette" to the winners circle at the 2008 IHRA North American Nationals at New England dragway in Super rod.
The Barletta family still own the car.

Bob Don you were sponsored by the "Speed Shack" in Norwood, where "We push Speed"
( I still have the licence plate frame you gave me)
Negrini is now out in D-7 planning on driving them crazy with his Johns Racecraft Firebird in SS/CM

BTW I still own "The Wild Armenian"
Greg

Originally Posted by SPS (Post 105437)

Robert/ Rich:

I think that most of us involved at the time would argue about the cost or sophistication of the Modified cars of the time. {yes, this was 30 years ago, not today} . These were well-built cars , as good as the parts available.
Examples would be Arlen Fadley's Maverick,{one of my toughest competitors}, arguably one of the first body-in-white cars ever built. Or my own Camaro, built in the mid 70's with a 4-link under the stock floor and stock frame rails {within the rules of the time}.

Remember, we raced at least 3 times a week and made probably 4 times as many runs a year as today.

I don't agree that it took buckets of money to race or be competitive as I sure didn't have a lot.. Instead , hard work and determination was the key to success. No crying when you got beat. Instead you went home and went to work. {sometimes I'm amazed we did that much work}

One of the best parts in my memory of Modified was the recognition by your competition when you ran well. No hard feelings here, just excellent competition by a close-knit group of racers with the same competitive spirit.

FJ

Originally Posted by Frito (Post 137456)

The same Jim Head? YEP it is. He ran a C/Dragster and I still remember his hometown listed as Sunbury, Ohio.

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 137419)

1976 C/SM there were 39 car fro the first round of class, back then you Had to win cass to run in Elminator

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 137567)

Recently came across a picture of A.Fadelys Maverick that is being restored by a guy in Oh.Looks real nice.I think it was on the H.A.M.B. site.