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Many that competed against us class racing have said WE make a very good team that is hard to beat. I taught my son every thing he knows and he is an exceptional student. I gave him 2 top shelf cars that I prepare, I tune, I maintain, that if they are not the best on the property wherever we race, they are amongst the best. My son doesn't win without ME.

That said, I never had the "zeal" to class race, my son wanted to try Super Comp so I invested my time and $ preparing the car and him and the result was he did very well but he doesn't care now if we class race again, it's up to me. If/when I decided to, it only happens with his commitment to compete for the championship. We are not those guys that show up for an event or two, when they have nothing better to do to "have fun"

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There is a lot to unpack there, lol. But it explains a lot.

So, if I'm understanding your comment the way it's written, your son does not work on the cars or have anything invested in his racing opportunity other than showing up with a helmet? Kinda sad. I feel like most people here would agree that races are won in the shop/garage before you ever make it to the race track. The passion of being a gear head is what makes drag racing (and class racing even more so IMO) so much fun, and it doesn't sound like your son has that. It appears that you take that aspect of it seriously as we all should, but what a bummer to own nothing and have everything provided for you. From what I've heard from people close to your son, he really doesn't care anything about drag racing and wouldn't compete were it not for you and I think I just found out why.

I'm grateful and proud to say I own everything I have and receive little to no financial assistance. My dad helps me sling wrenches occasionally but it's something we've always done together and I cherish it. I owe my success to my teacher as well, but standing in the winner's circle in front of a car I built, prepared, and tuned brings me so much joy and pride. It doesn't sound like your son has that at all and I hate that for him. Winning is great, but winning with something you poured your heart and soul in is so much better.

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Your words, your assumptions that I will set straigfht

You clearly are NOT understanding my comments, those are your words not mine. My son does in fact work on the cars. Besides the weekly maintenance, a few years ago, he was competing in a big $ event without me and hurt the engine. Rather than packing up and going home, he pulled the engine, and installed our spare not only without me, but without any help! That said, working on the cars is not fun and I've been doing for over 50 years but I do it because back in the day I couldn't afford to pay someone and now because there are few, really only 2 that I trust to work on my race cars. Last, FYI, the best at what we do will tell you he is the furthest thing from a gearhead and that without other people working on his race cars he wouldn't be who he is.


and you've heard wrong, you're talking to the jealous haters. My son is very competitive, puts the work in to be the best at everything he does, there is no half assed effort, there is no it's good enough that's why he races and that's why he will be a millionaire within 2 years!

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Ok, thank you for helping me understand. I hope you can see where I was going based on your prior post. You made it seem like you do it all and he did nothing. If that's not the case, I'll take your word for it.

Anyway class racing is expensive but I participate because I like it. :)

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There are a few things I like about the circus tour but more I don't like starting with having to showing up a day(s) in advance of the event to get a decent pit spot.

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Now that, we can agree on. I wish those races were set-up more like the old IHRA pro-ams where everything happens in a day or two. Get in, get it on, get it done. I try my best to spend no more time at the track than absolutely necessary. Not that I don't enjoy being at the races, but I came to the track to do just that: race. I'll show up the morning of or the night before if it's a long ride, park where I park, and start the show. I know there are a lot of cars and classes at these races, but 3-4 days for one race just seems ludacris.

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You two guys seem to have a lot to talk about. Why don't you exchange phone numbers and stop talking about bracket racing on the Stock/ Super Stock page?

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that's a hard NO and what should we talk about, gofundme handouts, another racer's passing that no one posts in the right forum, winter storms, sex, Californias fires, cancer?

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Interesting in that the main contributor in most of these off topic threads is you. :eek:


Stan

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WRONG as usual you're a clueless old man