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Pete Lanciers 11-30-2023 08:56 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Mike,

Always great to hear of new blood ready to make the leap, especially a new MOPAR to carry forth our standard. Best of luck, and looking forward to shaking your hand somewhere down the road!

Pete

GTX JOHN 11-30-2023 11:41 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 689463)
It may be because I've been hanging around Billy for too long, but if you aren't set on going fast, the 2bbl 318 doesn't look all that bad at 185hp. Would probably be quite a bit cheaper to get going, and less chance of a heads up run. I'm not really sure if it would be cheaper to buy a ready to run 70 challenger stocker being that the car is already owned. Ultimately depends how fast you want to go and how much $$ you can or want to spend. Good Luck!
I am fond of the 318 Thermoquad @ 230 HP.
I have run it pretty fast in both stock and SS on a budget.

GTS340 12-01-2023 01:22 AM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
What happen to the 1970 Challenger. 318 2bbl is over rated at 185. Hopefully its a nice car to start with. John knows there isn't a 318 with a 360 top in 1970. Sounds like you'll be looking for a Aspen/Volare soon to race cheaply.

Paul

Billy Nees 12-01-2023 09:57 AM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomike (Post 689448)
I had this Challenger for about 20 years.
This is me just thinking like me BUT, if this Challenger is a nice or even decent car then I wouldn't cut it up. There's plenty of cut-up/beat-up Mopars out there for sale.

P.S., look up '86 Diplomat/ Grand Fury (old cop cars). 318/2V or 4V are decent, inexpensive combo. You should be able to find one and you won't hurt anybody's feelings by cutting one up.

turbomike 12-01-2023 10:41 AM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
No cutting will happen on the Challenger. Thank you to all who commented. I have lots of work to get done, and now I have a better idea of how to reach my goal.

Mark Yacavone 12-01-2023 12:42 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomike (Post 689495)
No cutting will happen on the Challenger. l.
You've stated your interest in a 440 combo.

What would you call.sub-frame connectors thru the floor pan?
Roll bar plates welded to the floor pan?
Rear braces thru the rear bulkhead?
Front braces thru the firewall?
Front of rear wheel openings moved forward for tire clearance?
Holes in the trunk floor for fuel lines?

Just sayin'

MR DERBY CITY 12-01-2023 01:07 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Hey Turbo, you say you are retired . Congrats, I tried it but it didn’t work for me . Before you spend a large chunk of your 401k , check out the upcoming points meets in D2 . There are a lot of friendly racers down there and it would be a good time to pick their brain…. Mopars are expensive AND 440 Mopars are expensive…Just sayin ….:):)

Carguy49 12-01-2023 01:18 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Good luck on your project. One thing you might consider is to go to the Class Racer Builds section and read the ones that interest you. I don't think any 440 builds are there, but reading what others have gone through could be very helpful.

Again, good luck and welcome to class racing. Talk to all the racers you can, it will NOT hurt. Lots of great people and tons of information is available, both in person and on this site.

turbomike 12-01-2023 01:22 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
I do want to attend some races and see what class and combinations I could fit the car into. Division 2, and probably the closest track is Silverdollar Raceway. Thank you for the info.

340Cuda 12-01-2023 01:29 PM
Re: New guy looking to build a Stock eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbomike (Post 689495)
No cutting will happen on the Challenger. Thank you to all who commented. I have lots of work to get done, and now I have a better idea of how to reach my goal.
In my opinion if you build an engine with much horsepower you will need to go to a cage and subfloor connectors or you will bend the car. Don't ask me how I know but being able to close the doors easily is nice.

However if you do the modifications with future removal in mind I don't think you will be doing terrible damage to the car or its value.

Welcome to the class racing, good luck and keep us posted on your plans and progress.

Bill


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