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pro7474 03-26-2023 08:50 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Look at the effective date 1/1/2024

Stephen & Horace Johnson 03-26-2023 10:25 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Bell (Post 678028)
I wore 1 in COMP this weekend with a Hemi car. What I understood is that all COMP classes have to wear it. Maybe I'm wrong

What brand \ style do you wear ?

Don Eckel 111 03-26-2023 10:51 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Hensler (Post 678026)
I don’t think the Hemi cars had to???

From the 12/6/22 amendments.

SECTION 13: COMP, DRIVER: 10, NECK COLLAR/HEAD AND NECK
RESTRAINT DEVICE/SYSTEM (New Section after HELMET) (Page 6)
(12/6/2022)
A head and neck restraint device/system meeting SFI 38.1 mandatory and must
display a valid SFI label. At all times that the driver is in the race vehicle, from the
ready line until the vehicle is on the return road, driver must properly utilize an
SFI 38.1 head and neck restraint device/system, including connecting the helmet
as required for full functionality of the device. The head and neck restraint
device/system, when connected, must conform to the manufacturer’s mounting
instructions, and it must be configured, maintained, and used in accordance with
the manufacturer’s instructions. Modification of the device is prohibited. An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
helmet is required.

kansasfootbraker 03-26-2023 11:17 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
The rumor I heard was one-piece driving suits are next. Same effective date.

Brilliant.

Eric Bell 03-27-2023 09:45 AM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 678035)
What brand \ style do you wear ?

It was the Simpson Hybrid Pro

Eric Bell 03-27-2023 09:51 AM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Eckel 111 (Post 678037)
From the 12/6/22 amendments.

SECTION 13: COMP, DRIVER: 10, NECK COLLAR/HEAD AND NECK
RESTRAINT DEVICE/SYSTEM (New Section after HELMET) (Page 6)
(12/6/2022)
A head and neck restraint device/system meeting SFI 38.1 mandatory and must
display a valid SFI label. At all times that the driver is in the race vehicle, from the
ready line until the vehicle is on the return road, driver must properly utilize an
SFI 38.1 head and neck restraint device/system, including connecting the helmet
as required for full functionality of the device. The head and neck restraint
device/system, when connected, must conform to the manufacturer’s mounting
instructions, and it must be configured, maintained, and used in accordance with
the manufacturer’s instructions. Modification of the device is prohibited. An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
helmet is required.

Here's the part I don't understand.......you can't put the neck collar over the head and neck restraint.......at least on the 1 I have. I need to try and put it on under the helmet straps.

An SFI
38.1 head and neck restraint device can be used with, or without, a neck collar;
when a neck collar is not used, an SFI 3.3 head sock or SFI Spec 3.3 skirted
helmet is required.

Ben Holt 03-27-2023 10:01 AM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
AH/SM "was" the only class in comp that did not require a head/neck restraint device. That was due to the rules for AH/SM mirror the SS/AH (super stock) rules. It is still, technically, going to be that way. If you have an SS/AH/AH/SM car that does not go over 150 you still don't need it.

I think this a great rule change. If you are going 150 + in a car over 3000 lbs (which is the majority of Stock/Super Stock that can go that fast) you should be wearing a HANS-type device. It's only your neck/brain that you're trying to protect.....

The reasoning for the wording of the neck collar along with the HANS is that you must have something to protect your neck in case of a fire. The neck collar satisfies that requirement, but if you wear a HANS and no neck collar you are exposed. Hence the skirted helmet/head sock/neck collar options. Most everyone I have seen runs a sock

Mike Volkman 03-27-2023 10:51 AM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
I believe its a great idea. I watched my close friend, Wes Leopold, barrel roll in SGMP. Quit counting at 10 times and was praying that he'd be alright. Walked away with some shoulder pain that he had before the incident. I'm sure the Hans device played some role in saving his neck, literally speaking.

Hacksaw 03-27-2023 01:37 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Just so guys understand that if you run in SS and only go 148 MPH's and think you won't need a head & restraint , think again. If the class/record holder goes faster than 150 than you will be required to comply. No differentt than running 10.20's in SS/JA but because the record is sub 10.00 you need a SFI chassis cert.

JeremyDuncan 03-27-2023 01:51 PM

Re: This will affect some of you fast guys
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 678068)
Just so guys understand that if you run in SS and only go 148 MPH's and think you won't need a head & restraint , think again. If the class/record holder goes faster than 150 than you will be required to comply. No differentt than running 10.20's in SS/JA but because the record is sub 10.00 you need a SFI chassis cert.

Not how the 150mph+ parachute rule or 8.50 or quicker funny car style cage rule are applied. These are only applied if meeting or exceeding the performance requirements. Not by class record. Would think head and neck restraints would be same way.


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