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442OLDS 12-26-2022 06:59 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 672982)
I could see that, but don’t agree that a system that rewards completely lucky guessing is the proper direction for the sport.

I definitely see your point,but the success percentage would be quite low for guessing on the tree.

It's really similar to a strategy of a Hail Mary pass or pulling the goalie in hockey.

I'm not much of a soccer fan,but I did see the shootout in the last game of the World Cup.That net is so big,that the goalkeeper is basically guessing which way to jump.A random guess and blind luck.

The way it is now is that the (MUCH) slower car has basically no chance.Their only hope is to get their car fast enough to maybe trigger the other car to get horsepower for a future race.

And now,people want to take that away.

Lyn Smith 12-26-2022 07:04 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
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Originally Posted by Dirk Olson (Post 672979)
5 tenths Pro Tree fro S/SS why not?

Dirk Olson
A/S

Dirk I will tell you why not. What happens the first time the racers are staged up and are suppose to be getting a pro tree and the person in the tower forgets to turn to switch it over? Is it a re run? Or the tree is set on a .4 tree. It would never work.

Albert Lee 12-26-2022 07:29 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Actually, the tree parameters are defined for each individual eliminator.

Al Corda

Don Kennedy 12-26-2022 07:46 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
My way of thinking with the deep staging allowed for all. The Racers who win the most are the racers who race the most and spend the most money in expenses just to win the Championship for the purse of a measly $10,000
In my opinion, using instant green <red lights will be less and with deep staging, the slower cars can cut a better light also Spending a whole lot of money to win the championship will not be as much as it was with the old outdated way. Red Lights will be less of a factor now so the racers who don't race as much with financial restrictions or the States where there are no more race tracks can at least have a little better chance of winning a few rounds

Don Kennedy 12-26-2022 07:49 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 672977)
How many people are really going to be 3 or 4 tenths late on the full tree?

My line of thinking is that IF the slower car anticipates the instant green and gets it right,they may have a "chance" to win a heads up race. Lots of no prep racing is done like that. And the slower car "sometimes" gets lucky and wins.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/guessi...ight-or-wrong/

My way of thinking with the deep staging allowed for all.
The Racers who win the most are the racers who race the most and spend the most money in expenses just to win the Championship for the purse of a measly $10,000 In my opinion, using instant green <red lights will be less and with deep staging, the slower cars can cut a better light also Spending a whole lot of money to win the championship will not be as much as it was with the old outdated way. Red Lights will be less of a factor now so the racers who don't race as much with financial restrictions or the States where there are no more race tracks can at least have a little better chance of winning a few rounds

Don Kennedy 12-26-2022 07:56 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 672992)
My way of thinking with the deep staging allowed for all. The Racers who win the most are the racers who race the most and spend the most money in expenses just to win the Championship for the purse of a measly $10,000 In my opinion, using instant green, and red lights will be less and with deep staging, the slower cars can cut a better light also Spending a whole lot of money to win the championship will not be as much as it was with the old outdated way. Red Lights will be less of a factor now so the racers who don't race as much with financial restrictions or the States where there are no more race tracks can at least have a little better chance of winning a few rounds

I am just thinking out loud freezing here in Baltimore

Don Kennedy 12-26-2022 08:04 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 672987)
Dirk I will tell you why not. What happens the first time the racers are staged up and are suppose to be getting a pro tree and the person in the tower forgets to turn to switch it over? Is it a re run? Or the tree is set on a .4 tree. It would never work.

They should not forget

442OLDS 12-26-2022 08:05 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 672992)
My way of thinking with the deep staging allowed for all.
The Racers who win the most are the racers who race the most and spend the most money in expenses just to win the Championship for the purse of a measly $10,000 In my opinion, using instant green <red lights will be less and with deep staging, the slower cars can cut a better light also Spending a whole lot of money to win the championship will not be as much as it was with the old outdated way. Red Lights will be less of a factor now so the racers who don't race as much with financial restrictions or the States where there are no more race tracks can at least have a little better chance of winning a few rounds

I would only be in favor of the instant green in heads up runs.

If you are going to have instant green and deep staging,might as well have delay boxes permitted as said earlier and leave it the way it is now.

tstickff 12-26-2022 08:40 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
How is this topic almost to 3 full pages of discussion? Oh the same way the last 3 threads have made it multiple pages…..boredom

Tim Stickles

Lenny5160 12-27-2022 01:30 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
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Originally Posted by tstickff (Post 672998)
How is this topic almost to 3 full pages of discussion? Oh the same way the last 3 threads have made it multiple pages…..boredom

Tim Stickles

Complaining about “3 full pages” on the second page? Ha!


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