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442OLDS 12-21-2022 10:03 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 672688)
The new and "enhanced" AHFS will ruin the performance aspect of what you do. You might as well be bracket racing. For what, to protect your combo's factor? Lowering the indexes in Stock Eliminator was the answer.

It's been said many times on this forum. Stock Eliminator is not for the faint at heart. Spend the money and or work your butt off or both, but mostly both.

1,000' racing to save your factor? You're cooking your own goose.

Snap out of it!
I don't know,I kind of like the idea.
If I get a heads up,there is no way I can win.
But if I take a bunch of weight out,I might be able to get someone to trigger the 1.00 under if the air is good and they are dead late.

KennyAnderson 12-21-2022 11:36 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
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Originally Posted by Tim Barrett (Post 672666)
Hi Kenny,,hope this wasn't you and I in the G/SA final!! I'd like to make a deal now with you if you'd like??? Beer and something to eat at the end of the day!!
LOL!!! Tim no deal was necessary! I lost that race in the lanes! LOL! Was told you can't get it tooooooo cold. Wrong! :D:D:D

I would love to race you again, that was a GREAT DAY! Matter of fact I think I still owe you a cold one! See you soon my friend!

PS, My lips are sealed. I want everything is my world to remain oK.....

Bryan Worner 12-22-2022 08:54 AM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
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Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 672566)
I’m putting out this public service announcement. If you plan on running D/SA or E/SA , there will be no deals. Guarantee I won’t be lifting whichever class I’m in.
Statements like this get instant hp! Trust me, I know! Oh, wait, there is no instant hp anymore!

If you keep your promise here I guarantee you will get a gift of more weight by NHRA at the end of the year!

grncpe 12-22-2022 02:17 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 672707)
Statements like this get instant hp! Trust me, I know! Oh, wait, there is no instant hp anymore!

If you keep your promise here I guarantee you will get a gift of more weight by NHRA at the end of the year!
Bryan, I’m not asking anyone else to do anything that they choose not to do.
If they want to run 1000’ to save their combo so be it. That’s their choice. I choose to run my stuff, I could care less about the eliminator, I’m there for class! Or the possibility of a heads up during eliminations. That’s why I work on my stuff. I have lost plenty of times, some by my own doing, some by being outrun. I don’t get mad, it just pushes me to do better, performance wise or driving, I own my choices. I hope you don’t take this as I’m attacking you, I’m not, just stating my position that I’m not going to make any deals.

James Perrone 12-22-2022 02:27 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 672742)
Bryan, I’m not asking anyone else to do anything that they choose not to do.
If they want to run 1000’ to save their combo so be it. That’s their choice. I choose to run my stuff, I could care less about the eliminator, I’m there for class! Or the possibility of a heads up during eliminations. That’s why I work on my stuff. I have lost plenty of times, some by my own doing, some by being outrun. I don’t get mad, it just pushes me to do better, performance wise or driving, I own my choices. I hope you don’t take this as I’m attacking you, I’m not, just stating my position that I’m not going to make any deals.
Move to G/SA. I’m your huckleberry

B Parker 12-22-2022 05:05 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 672742)
Bryan, I’m not asking anyone else to do anything that they choose not to do.
If they want to run 1000’ to save their combo so be it. That’s their choice. I choose to run my stuff, I could care less about the eliminator, I’m there for class! Or the possibility of a heads up during eliminations. That’s why I work on my stuff. I have lost plenty of times, some by my own doing, some by being outrun. I don’t get mad, it just pushes me to do better, performance wise or driving, I own my choices. I hope you don’t take this as I’m attacking you, I’m not, just stating my position that I’m not going to make any deals.
Tom I started this post to be sarcastic because of the recent change in the AHFS. To me the person in charge of the AHFS doesn't get a lot of us that race Stock and Super Stock. The way you say you like to race you should be pissed at the new change also. I have not looked at how fast you can go. But go on go 1 under and faster at the Baby Gators. Keep running your car that way and your going to need to spend more money and time next year just to stay even with what your car can run now with the weight you will be adding. BP.

And the racers that run your same class. That don't work on their cars to go faster nor will spend the money it may also take will have a nice big smile on their face as they get that much closer to you. And you can say Thanks AFHS.

B Parker 12-22-2022 05:29 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
Someone on one of the post said they talked to the person in charge of making the change to the AHFS. That he received a bunch of phone calls about the last change and decided to change it again. What's a bunch of phone calls. Fifty ,sixty. There are a thousand plus of us that have Stock Eliminator cars. So the 350/255 Hp 1969 Chevy was mentioned as an example. Racers with that combo played the go slow to keep your average down game and didn't get HP. Good for them. I like to take a look at Indy without the AHFS in play. You don't get all of the different combo's there but you do get quite a few. Take the H/SA class. When was the last time a 255 Hp 350 has won it? That class has been dominated the last almost ten years by a 305 chevy. I don't think that combo should get HP either. Rod and Chris have spent a lot of time and money to get their car to go that fast. It's my opinion that this last change to the AHFS is a JOKE and a SLAP in the face to any of us that still care about making our cars one of the fastest in the class that they run. BP

1347 12-22-2022 07:21 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 672757)
Someone on one of the post said they talked to the person in charge of making the change to the AHFS. That he received a bunch of phone calls about the last change and decided to change it again. What's a bunch of phone calls. Fifty ,sixty. There are a thousand plus of us that have Stock Eliminator cars. So the 350/255 Hp 1969 Chevy was mentioned as an example. Racers with that combo played the go slow to keep your average down game and didn't get HP. Good for them. I like to take a look at Indy without the AHFS in play. You don't get all of the different combo's there but you do get quite a few. Take the H/SA class. When was the last time a 255 Hp 350 has won it? That class has been dominated the last almost ten years by a 305 chevy. I don't think that combo should get HP either. Rod and Chris have spent a lot of time and money to get their car to go that fast. It's my opinion that this last change to the AHFS is a JOKE and a SLAP in the face to any of us that still care about making their car one of the fastest in the class that they run. BP
Barry, maybe it's because if you look at the Nitro Joe stats for 2022. 17 350 255 cars went a second under, out of those 8 went 1.10 under, and 1 car went 1.369 under. So it was capable of hitting a trigger 17 times with different cars. even when it did at races where it counted, it had enough slower cars to keep the average down. These new rules are gonna wreak havoc on me also being there are only 2 of us in the country running my combo.
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Tim Barrett 12-22-2022 07:55 PM
Re: Baby Gator's
 
Hi Duane,,some of Joe's data was obtained from National Opens which I think dont count for AHFS consideration. My 1.179 was purposely done under mineshaft conditions. 2023 no mineshaft so this ET will never happen again along with a class win,,unless things happen a certain way. Divisional and National wins are more important than a class win,,for us,,got one. Haven't seen Dan,Joe,Allison and many others worry about a class win as much as the real Wally's. I never would have thought how much a Divisional Wally means till we won two.

Larry Hill 12-22-2022 08:29 PM
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A class win is a real Wally


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