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Don Kennedy 11-15-2020 08:32 PM

Re: LODRS at National Events!
 
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Originally Posted by 1matcoman (Post 628104)
Would be interested to see how the bills get paid when there are no Sportsman racers there! Entry fees, and tickets for crew, friends and family members have to enter into their brain dead decisions sooner or later. ???

The race would not work without sportsman .The pits would look bare Remember there are only 60 to 70 pros

bykr 11-15-2020 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbrinson47 (Post 628076)
Its coming ! Just as I posted in the past. It will no doubt take awhile but do not be surprised when Stock and Super Stock no longer exists.

Haters gonna hate

Cbrinson47 11-16-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bykr (Post 628110)
Haters gonna hate

I'm NOT a hater. In fact I hope I am very wrong but a lot of you can not see the forest for the trees. There are not enough REAL sportsman cars being allowed in to even have class run offs at most races this coming year. Plenty of S/C, S/G, Top Sportsman, Top dragster and now the S/ST cars with little to no inspections. Its turned into a bracket race !

jamie2370 11-16-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbrinson47 (Post 628126)
I'm NOT a hater. In fact I hope I am very wrong but a lot of you can not see the forest for the trees. There are not enough REAL sportsman cars being allowed in to even have class run offs at most races this coming year. Plenty of S/C, S/G, Top Sportsman, Top dragster and now the S/ST cars with little to no inspections. Its turned into a bracket race !

That's funny. Guess you didn't look at the schedule. Stock, Super Stock, Super Comp and Super Gas ARE THE ONLY SPORTSMAN CLASSES NOT!!! CUT FROM ANY NATIONAL EVENT. Those 4 classes are the foundation of NHRA. Without them there is no Professional NHRA.

jamie2370 11-16-2020 01:01 PM

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And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.

Stan Weiss 11-16-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 628132)
And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.


All excellent points.When I started, I flat towed. :eek:


Stan

Todd Hoven 11-16-2020 01:28 PM

Re: LODRS at National Events!
 
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Originally Posted by Cbrinson47 (Post 628076)
Its coming ! Just as I posted in the past. It will no doubt take awhile but do not be surprised when Stock and Super Stock no longer exists.

A little trolling for the day?

MR DERBY CITY 11-16-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbrinson47 (Post 628076)
Its coming ! Just as I posted in the past. It will no doubt take awhile but do not be surprised when Stock and Super Stock no longer exists.

Remind me again, What stocker or Superstockers do you race ??

Jim Caughlin 11-16-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 628132)
And as far as quotas go. Have you seen the tow rigs these days? There isn't room for more cars. WE did that....not NHRA. I have a 39ft rv with a 28ft trailer and my crap is small in the pits compared to a 40ft toter and 40ft stacker with a 15ft wide awning off one side. Now go back to trucks with open trailers where you pit off the back of the trailer....a quota of 45 stockers turns into 90. Again.... WE as racers did that to the quotas. Has nothing to do with limiting the sportsman racer. NHRA might be stupid but they ain't dumb.

Not that I am disagreeing with you when it comes to the real estate being consumed by large RV's but that argument does not hold water when it comes to tracks like LV, there is a ton of empty space even at the largest events. Quotas at races like that should be expanded.

jamie2370 11-16-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 628144)
Not that I am disagreeing with you when it comes to the real estate being consumed by large RV's but that argument does not hold water when it comes to tracks like LV, there is a ton of empty space even at the largest events. Quotas at races like that should be expanded.

I do understand that, but the logic is to try to keep an even field all across the US as to not give any certain racer an advantage. Over 65 cars and the points available changes, i.e. R/U gets 94 instead of 84 and semi's gets 83 instead of 73. It would be an advantage to west coast racers. There are a few on this end that can handle more but you can't have Southern Nationals in Commerce GA have a Stock quota of 45 and LV have a quota of 75. The runner ups and Semis in LV would get 10 more points than than the same finish in Commerce. Crazy thing is the winner is still 105 regardless, from 33 cars to 128 cars. And I am not trying to argue a point with anyone. Just making points because alot of people blame NHRA when in reality, WE as racers started most of the issues. Ok....I'll get off my soap box lol.


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