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Jim Bailey 04-17-2020 11:52 AM

Re: Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"
 
You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bailey (Post 612484)
You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

On the other hand. many states tried to leave parks and hiking trails open so people could walk, run and cycle. People were not able to maintain proper distance for those activities so many states closed parks entirely.

Paradigm Shift 04-17-2020 12:16 PM

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Our courses are closed and the hiking trails clearly indicate keeping a wide berth between yourself and other people.

Bill Bader has many obligations to deal with but the priority here and now should be to not place his patrons in jeopardy, regardless of their enthusiasm to race.

We're staying home.

Pete Lanciers 04-17-2020 12:21 PM

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On this day last month we had lost 100 Americans to Covid 19, today we have lost more than 34,000... think real hard about that the next time some fool tries to convince you the danger has passed... Protect one another. All life is precious!

Dano 04-17-2020 12:22 PM

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This is like applying the brakes on a icy road....do it wrong, not gradually, bad things are going to happen..I'm staying home

Greg Hill 04-17-2020 12:25 PM

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I understand Bill’s frustration. It has to be a terrible feeling knowing that you could lose your business, one that you’ve put your heart and soul into for many years. Watching that video you can see the Anguish in his face and voice. All that being said, how do you open without a sanctioning body? How do you open without insurance? Who’s going to write the insurance policy in this day and time? What ambulance service is going against state regulations? I’m not saying it can’t happen but there are a lot of things to deal with.

There are thousands of small businesses in the country that won’t make it through this covid 19 crisis. My favorite neighborhood bar, that’s been in business for more than 40 years may not reopen. It’s heartbreaking. On the other hand, who’s going to sit in a crowded grand stand to watch racing or anything else. Who’s going to stand in a crowded bar on Friday night to get a drink? Until we have both a vaccine and good treatment options we are not going back to any kind of normal. I could see some businesses opening back up in limited ways by June, but my feeling is that we are going to be without spectator sports, other than on tv, for the rest of this year.

Mark Yacavone 04-17-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612475)
So Jim who is being stupid? The man trying to protect the people of his state or a greedy track owner?

Of course, I think of the Conkey family..all the time.
The man says he put his profits back into the business, rather than a vault somewhere. He doesn't have cash on hand to survive ,without re-opening soon . He employs hundred of locals..Now down to three. He doesn't take a salary.
Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 612492)
Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.

So what happens if he reopens and three weeks later, a number of people who went to his track test positive for COVID-19? What will happen if any of them die?

In addition to the PR hit that he and the track will take, there could also be lawsuits. It won't just be him ... it will be every other business and organization that their name on the track.

Do you think his insurance company told him it is OK with his plan to reopen?

In a case like this, I would define greed as when money overrides good judgement and common sense.

Lenny5160 04-17-2020 12:51 PM

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I don't worry about maintaining proper social distancing at the race track, but at the same time, I haven't touched a gas pump handle in over a month. On a typical race weekend, I'm filling the motorhome, filling gas cans, buying a bag of ice. People from all over the region will be intermingling at various points along the way.

It seems that the liability could be enormous, and a bigger threat to the track's future than just remaining closed under federal or state guidelines.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 612495)
It seems that the liability could be enormous, and a bigger threat to the track's future than just remaining closed under federal or state guidelines.

The liability could extend to anyone with whom he has a business relationship in operating the track. Sponsors. Sanctioning bodies. Insurance companies.


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