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Mickey Whaley 09-11-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
Looks like the only thing that was distorted was the win light in the wrong lane. Looks like the steve johnson pro stock bike final the other year.

Rick4310 09-11-2007 09:54 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
I have it on TIvo and you can only move it so slow, it is the same as in the photo shown..

Geddes 09-12-2007 04:13 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?

Jim Parsons 09-12-2007 04:20 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
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This is a good example in my opinion why NHRA should catch up with the rest of the racing world and go with electronic transmitters on each car i.e., NASCAR, F-1, Indy car SCCA and even Go Karts. These little transmitters are relatively cheap, about the size of a pack of cigarettes and project down onto a scoring wire laid in the track. Their accuracy is excellent as seen by the July 4 th. race at Daytona and you could do away with all those ancient photo-reflectors used now. It would also eliminate all the finish line issues with paper blowing across the track, dipping games played by cars with low front spoilers etc. Its a shame someone looses because of 1960?s technology.

Jim Parsons

Michael Beard 09-12-2007 04:46 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
>> with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

I believe at least the IHRA spec for the finish line beam (and all incrementals, except for the 60') is 5-5/8". I would assume NHRA is the same, or very close.

Michael Lyons 09-12-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
I'd say that more than likely Mr Richardson was ahead in this photo but wasn't at the stripe. In the 5th round his speed was 166, so I'd say in the interest of saving index he pedaled to tighten it up and gave it back. And maybe because of the bobbing front end the front of that street roadster missed the beam and tripped with the front wheels and Jasons nose was ahead at the stripe. Just a theory but his speed is off 4 mph, why? And who's to say his 166 in the semi was wide open. Tough way to lose the U.S. Nationals for sure. I gave the stripe back plenty of times in my dragster days and my speed was alot higher than my opponents because of how late before you caught them.

joe176 09-12-2007 06:24 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
I spoke to Scotty at Etown. He said before any of this came up that he stayed in it past the finish line to the scoreboards for the win and thought he had it at the stripe. Vinny confirmed the datalogger showed it on the chip past the finish line. The return road celebration confirmed he had lost after he missed the win lights on the guard rail.

Michael Beard 09-12-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
Here's the two different screen captures I've seen, in succession:

http://www.staginglight.com/images/comp_indy07.jpg

Dave Goob Cook 09-13-2007 11:26 AM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geddes (Post 40624)
Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?

The change came with the Compulink "Startrac" system upgrade to infrareds, I can't remember the exact reasoning, other than I believe it was to compensate for the change from incandescent photocell receivers placed at 1 1/2" above the surface, also the 60' timer was moved to 61' 4", I think to compensate for the higher downtrack sensors, and keep the "standards" in line in regards to record attempts. It also helped alleviate the problems of anyone having a movable stripe catcher or other bodywork tricks.

Seems this all happened about 2000 or so.....We need Jeff Foster in here to answer this one.

Geddes 09-13-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every
 
Thanks Dave.

Thats good info. I would like to know more about that 60' clock spec?

Hello Jeff Foster.......................More info please.


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