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Billy Nees 09-14-2017 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 545048)
Hey, you forgot that you can run a 327 intake on your 283 stocker, AND if its a Nova you can run a deep sump oil pan....LOL
Yeah, what he^^^^^^^^^^^^ said!

SSDiv6 09-14-2017 01:12 PM
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As I was told, the rule was implemented because the creativity of some racers using a tall bucket seat for the driver and using a short seat on the passenger side to save weight.

Coleydog 09-14-2017 01:16 PM
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How much weight savings can you actually get by cutting off the head rest? I think lighter clothes would work just as well. I can't believe with all the other problems out there they would jump on this. Outcry from the fans must be unbearable. Is it high on the list or job justification.
Mike

Jim Caughlin 09-14-2017 02:01 PM
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I'm thinking that cutting off the passenger headrest is more to get better rear vision than a weight factor. The interesting variation on this is you can use two low back seats and attach the headrest to the roll bar / cage, totally legal.

Mark Yacavone 09-14-2017 02:49 PM
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Actually, I think what's going on here is that certain tech guys that really care about S/SS, see things, for instance at Indy, that are getting way out of control, even more so, if that's possible.
They do what they can, when they can, by reporting on it.
They don't have much input on the bogus parts and hp's that are accepted.
We know where that comes from.

Anyway, thank you for trying, if this is the case.

Steve Polhill 09-14-2017 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 545045)
I think 150+ MPH Copo's etc. should be in their own eliminator, instead of changing the rules for 16 second cars.
I agree Mark, But while they are in Stock and I'm being caught at 150 mph, I'm seriously thinking of putting a 6 point in the Escort. Mainly because I'm not keen on the idea of picking a Bowtie or Blue Oval out of my ***. Ask Marty Buth about his experience, with a Cobra Jet crossing lanes.

Michael Beard 09-14-2017 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 545062)
I agree Mark, But while they are in Stock and I'm being caught at 150 mph, I'm seriously thinking of putting a 6 point in the Escort. Mainly because I'm not keen on the idea of picking a Bowtie or Blue Oval out of my ***. Ask Marty Buth about his experience, with a Cobra Jet crossing lanes.
Agreed. I had an eye-opener running the Turismo at a bracket race a few years ago when a car going 140+ crossed into my lane past the finish line and tagged the wall. If he would've lost it at half track, he would've gone THROUGH me. I brought this up at a Div. 3 race a few years ago, and got blank stares.

Dwight Southerland 09-14-2017 04:04 PM
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Rules allow you to put a roll bar in any stocker if you want to.

Joe Schweigert 09-14-2017 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 545029)
On www.nhraracer.com a new rule revision for Stock and S/S dated 9/12/2017 has been posted.

The old rule read...Driver and passenger-side seats must be identical in appearance.

The new rule reads as follows:

If a full-sized corporate OEM driver’s seat is used, the passenger seat must be identical in appearance to the driver’s seat. If a full-sized aftermarket driver’s seat is used the passenger seat must be full-sized and identical in appearance to the driver’s seat being used or must be a full-sized corporate OEM passenger-seat.

That means an aftermarket passenger seat cannot be drilled full of lightening holes or have the upper portion/head rest cut off. Its time for a few racers to buy a new passenger seat because they butchered the seat.
If this is the case why doesn't it state that no holes ! I asked about this earlier this year and was told that they wanted the same seats i.e. two factory or two aftermarket not one of each

Larry Fulton 09-14-2017 05:00 PM
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When I first saw these cut down aftermarket seats in a "Stocker" (photo from indy 2017) I thought the owner was trying to emulate the look of the o.e.m. low back originals. No big deal.

I'll side with some others here. With all of the bogus crap that has become "Accepted", and "cut down aftermarket" or "mismatched driver - passenger seats" becomes worthy of a midseason "rule" change? Unbelievable.


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