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kmawhee 03-29-2017 10:19 AM

Re: Comp racers seek to show eliminator is very much alive
 
Boy, I look at that ad every day and think, "do the boys really need to go to college?!"

I'd love to have that car and compete in Comp. I've seen how hard it is and how much luck in involved and I'd still love to give it a try. How bad does that make me :-)

I'll still pick up a couple lottery tickets and I've probably got Jr and Sr's numbers memorized from looking at them so much.

G Schenck 03-29-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kmawhee (Post 530974)
Boy, I look at that ad every day and think, "do the boys really need to go to college?!"

I'd love to have that car and compete in Comp. I've seen how hard it is and how much luck in involved and I'd still love to give it a try. How bad does that make me :-)

I'll still pick up a couple lottery tickets and I've probably got Jr and Sr's numbers memorized from looking at them so much.

Korey, with that runner up last weekend, stay in SS and put your kids thru college. Congrats

Greg

Rich Biebel 03-29-2017 11:30 AM

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The old saying probably applies to Comp eliminator racing more than some other categories...

"How to make a Million dollars in drag racing......Start with 2 Million! " :eek:

Mark Yacavone 03-30-2017 01:15 PM

Re: Comp racers seek to show eliminator is very much alive
 
Not much interest over here, I see.
I was thinking a few guys would offer suggestions to help our Comp friends.

How about a nostalgia Super Modified for 1st gen Camaros and Chevy II's ?
Maybe a spec or crate motor, stick shift deal?
Main problem with one class and index...As soon as one guy beats up the index, the rest of the new guys will be chasing him around with pitchforks.
Maybe this one needs some fine tuning.
A place to start a dialogue from, anyway.

Alan Roehrich 03-30-2017 02:12 PM

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Much as I love the original old school modified classes (those videos from Bowling Green are ones I can watch all the time) not too many of the "modern fans" NHRA seems to be catering to would give a damn about them. It would be nearly impossible to revive those classes, or the original Modified Eliminator as it was. The cost would be out of control over night, and NHRA would never want to bother with tech and factors in a class such as the old Modified Eliminator. Spec stuff and crate motors aren't going to help either.

I'd love to see it. But we can barely keep Stock and Super Stock from extinction. They seem to linger on the brink constantly.

killintime6968 03-30-2017 02:48 PM

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I too would love to run comp, but the cost factor we kill me. Not many people can afford to be on the dyno at least once a month or more. Also in the old school modified classes it would be to hard to police the cylinder heads no matter what rules dictate. Somebody will always find a way to bend them. They have been many posts on the subject on Spec heads and engines but once again someone will bend the rules.

Bruce Cameron
68 Camaro Superstock ex-modified production
68 Nova Stock elim

SSDiv6 03-30-2017 03:26 PM

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For my return to racing, I seriously considered building a Super Stock Modified car. However, saw it more viable to build a Comp Super Modified.

One of my biggest issues in building the car was dealing with NHRA as regards to the rules on what is and is not allowed. When asked on a specific change on the car based on my interpretation of the rule book, I was usually told No. Then I would ask why it was allowed on a specific car, I never got an answer or response.

I know this same issue has happened to many friends that race in Super Stock GT in regards to what is allowed and not allowed in the class.

So, after much debate and a long discussion and email exchanges with Bruce at NHRA, and with my chassis builder buddy, I decided to build the car for Comp Super Modified class.

Another consideration was the drivetrain. There is not much difference between a Comp engine and a Super Stock Modified engine and most of the cars are running the same transmissions and rearends.

As regards to Comp dying, I don't see that happening soon. There are other cars being built and even Bob Book on his Facebook page shared he can't keep with the demand for Comp engines and has a backlog.

So, in a nutshell, I am looking forward to racing next year in Comp Super Modified with a 1994 Ford Mustang Cobra, with an awesome recent paint finish by Super Stock racer Sean Cour and Allen Sherman power.

fordteacherguy 03-30-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Comp racers seek to show eliminator is very much alive
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 531063)
For my return to racing, I seriously considered building a Super Stock Modified car. However, saw it more viable to build a Comp Super Modified.

One of my biggest issues in building the car was dealing with NHRA as regards to the rules on what is and is not allowed. When asked on a specific change on the car based on my interpretation of the rule book, I was usually told No. Then I would ask why it was allowed on a specific car, I never got an answer or response.

I know this same issue has happened to many friends that race in Super Stock GT in regards to what is allowed and not allowed in the class.

So, after much debate and a long discussion and email exchanges with Bruce at NHRA, and with my chassis builder buddy, I decided to build the car for Comp Super Modified class.

Another consideration was the drivetrain. There is not much difference between a Comp engine and a Super Stock Modified engine and most of the cars are running the same transmissions and rearends.

As regards to Comp dying, I don't see that happening soon. There are other cars being built and even Bob Book on his Facebook page shared he can't keep with the demand for Comp engines and has a backlog.

So, in a nutshell, I am looking forward to racing next year in Comp Super Modified with a 1994 Ford Mustang Cobra, with an awesome recent paint finish by Super Stock racer Sean Cour and Allen Sherman power.

Can't wait to see it!

Mike Mans 03-30-2017 03:57 PM

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I know this forum may not be the right group of people to agree with this comment - but after a lot of thought and looking around the pits I would disagree that money is the reason people aren't running Comp. The pits are full of 75'+ race rigs that are all well north of $200k (RV + trailer), there are dozens of new Top Dragster and Top Sportsman cars being built every year (no cheaper to build than many Comp cars), and there is a HUGE growth in the small tire radial world. These fast growing classes that I just mentioned have no better payouts than Comp, have no qualifying money, or perks that unfortunately used to exist in Comp. But - they have some undefined draw to them that the Comp racers committee is trying to better understand to encourage these folks building new cars and growing their racing presence - to look at Comp as a class they may want to compete in. There are a LOT of people out in our sport with plenty of money to compete in whatever class they so choose, but there must be a reason that just isn't well enough understood yet as to why they aren't jumping into this great NHRA category.

Just my opinion,
Mike Mans

Mark Yacavone 03-30-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 531063)


As regards to Comp dying, I don't see that happening soon. There are other cars being built and even Bob Book on his Facebook page shared he can't keep with the demand for Comp engines and has a backlog.

So, in a nutshell, I am looking forward to racing next year in Comp Super Modified with a 1994 Ford Mustang Cobra, with an awesome recent paint finish by Super Stock racer Sean Cour and Allen Sherman power.

Looking good, Joe
Appears to be at the CFR World Headquarters .

I still think you could use an infusion of new classes and racers there.
How about any NSCA classes that might cross over? I don't know what they have, specifically.

How about this ? Stick shift Super / Stockers are always fun to watch. They are already clutchless.
Knock about three tenths off the indexes, and give them the option of running Comp.
They could change combos to stay competitive.
Of course ,the automatic guys would say.."what about us?"
Just trying to make this more spectator friendly.
Powerglide dragsters never did much for me.
(Your opinion may vary)


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