Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

Does this mean you can now run bars to the front frame in Stock, or does it apply just to the C4 and C5 Corvette mentioned in the sentence that precedes it?

SECTION 10A: STOCK CARS, BODY:7, FIREWALL

"Roll cage tubing may run across top or side of inner fender well/strut tower and attach to frame horn."

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

I was wondering the same thing.

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

Get ready for older s sst cars in the same class and the new ones in there's. Corky

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

I asked for a clarification from Pat Cvegros
This is the response.

Jim,

For 2016 Stock will be allowed to install forward strut bars; they can attach to the firewall via plates or through the firewall and attach to the roll cage A-pillar bars.

Pat Cvengros

Pacific Division Technical Director

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Schaechter [mailto:jimschaechter@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:18 PM
To: Pat Cvengros
Subject: 2015-2016 question for stock

Hi Pat. I am looking at one add on that appears to allow the roll cage to extend through the firewall to the strut tower or over the fender well to the frame, but it is confusing and I am not sure what this change really means. Can you clarify? Right now no part of the roll age can extend forward of the firewall on stock. 7:4 doesn't address it either. Thanks, Jim

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

That's why I have a cage in my car.
Mike Taylor 3601

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

I don't disagree with that. Separate issue. My problem is with the uneven application of the rules. Is it safe or isn't it?
- If someone's 10.50 car doesn't need a cage, why does mine?
- If my 10.50 car needs a cage, why doesn't another one?
- If other 10.50-second drivers don't need a Competition License, why do I?
- If I need a Competition License to go 10.50's, why don't all 10.50 drivers?

Hey, if they want to make roll cages and Competition Licenses required for all cars 10.99-quicker, by all means, but make it ALL cars 10.99-quicker. Super Stock, Stock, and E.T. Um... how do I even qualify for a Competition License if I can't run 9.99 in the first place? Is there a new Competition License specifically for 10.00-11.05 Factory cars?

Again, why do the safety requirements for a vehicle change when the only thing that's changed is the decals on the window? This is not a new issue. I've argued this for a decade.

When NHRA developed the Factory classes, I asked the questions:
- If GT Trucks, Modified Stock, Modified Truck, and Modified classes with an automatic get a 5% weight break, do Factory automatics?
- If Factory automatics don't get a weight break, why do GT Trucks, Modified Stock, Modified Truck, and Modified classes?

I had *three* high up NHRA officials refuse to answer the question. One gave me a "no" on the first question, but no one would even acknowledge that the second question was asked. Not even a "Because I said so." I don't care which way it is, but there should be an even application of the rules. If they do, why don't we, OR if we don't, why do they? It should be one or the other, the same for everyone in comparable circumstances.

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

I asked for a clarification from Pat Cvegros
This is the response.

Jim,

For 2016 Stock will be allowed to install forward strut bars; they can attach to the firewall via plates or through the firewall and attach to the roll cage A-pillar bars.

Pat Cvengros

Pacific Division Technical Director

(626) 250-2295


I'd want a second opinion before I started cutting holes and welding.
That is not the way that it reads to me.
Pete

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

Again with the blinders/blockers. Didn't NHRA try to do something about this a few years ago after someone got run over? And after about two races everything was back to the way it was. Why not just say "If you have anything hanging down in front of your face, you will be shut off." I'll be happy to take the tape off my shield as long as the guy in the other lane blocking the top two ambers takes his down.

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I thought so as well. I mean, there were some racers with cardboard boxes taped to their helmets! I thought the rule already had changed and was just not enforced. I don't use a blinder so I haven't looked that close I guess.

Re: 2015 to 2016 NHRA Rule Changes
 

In my opinion blinders of any kind are a crutch and have no place in handicap racing. If some drivers feel the need to try and seek some sort of advantage from blinders then perhaps another class using a pro tree would be more suitable.

If the rule were changed tomorrow making blinders totally illegal, regardless of where and how they are mounted- never fear. Every driver currently using them would still show up and the best will still be the best.