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Mile High 07-16-2015 12:03 PM

Re: NHRA ProStock changes coming!
 
NHRA has to do something to get Ford and Chrysler back into it. 14 Camaros and 2 Dodges just doesn't excite me anymore. Only one Dodge has a legitimate chance to win and he did last weekend. I was good with Glidden crushing everyone back in the day. :D

Fords Rule!

Jeff :)

Jared Jordan 07-16-2015 12:17 PM

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Change to the Pro Stock class could be a good thing in terms of sponsorship dollars and fan interest, but, as Alan pointed out, NHRA is opening a brand new can of worms. The engines are all different, the cars are aerodynamically different, etc. It will be interesting to see how those issues are handled. Performance-wise, it should be fun to watch. P.B. Candies went 7.85 at Indy over 1000 lbs. heavier than the current Pro Stock minimum. Granted, that was a 4.0L blower (as opposed to 2.3L or 2.9L on the FS cars), but that may very well end up being what those cars run in the new "Pro Stock" too. The rules will have to be much more liberal than FS to make the differentiation between the two obvious to Joe Blow fan as well.

ALMACK 07-16-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 476578)
Change to the Pro Stock class could be a good thing in terms of sponsorship dollars and fan interest, but, as Alan pointed out, NHRA is opening a brand new can of worms. The engines are all different, the cars are aerodynamically different, etc. It will be interesting to see how those issues are handled. Performance-wise, it should be fun to watch. P.B. Candies went 7.85 at Indy over 1000 lbs. heavier than the current Pro Stock minimum. Granted, that was a 4.0L blower (as opposed to 2.3L or 2.9L on the FS cars), but that may very well end up being what those cars run in the new "Pro Stock" too. The rules will have to be much more liberal than FS to make the differentiation between the two obvious to Joe Blow fan as well.

When I read about possible PS changes, the first car I thought about was the P.B. Candies CJ Mustang.

My idea would be to take a Super Stocker like that and allow any cu.in. ( up to 500) so long as the outside dimensions of the block are the same as factory issue. So any bore /stroke.

Use a factory body template as a go- no-go gauge and allow fiberglass doors, trunk lid, etc.


My question tho is, will the new PS be required to be naturally aspirated ?
Or...allow the blowers that are legal in S/S ?

Ever how that NHRA does this, the new PS cars will have to be a step above the current Super Stockers.

Geerhead55 07-16-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 600ci (Post 476526)
JR. pro stock we need it

They already had it,, it was called Pro Stock Truck: 358 ci limit - 5 speed gearboxes and 7 second ETs. I loved it and thought it was the ultimate small-block/ stick shift class. NHRA didn't think so I guess,,, they killed it. Thanks NHRA!
Danny Durham

jims5600 07-16-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 476582)
They already had it,, it was called Pro Stock Truck: 358 ci limit - 5 speed gearboxes and 7 second ETs. I loved it and thought it was the ultimate small-block/ stick shift class. NHRA didn't think so I guess,,, they killed it. Thanks NHRA!
Danny Durham

I agree with Danny,Pro Stock truck was exciting,to me anyway.

Alan Roehrich 07-16-2015 01:34 PM

Re: NHRA ProStock changes coming!
 
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Originally Posted by Mile High (Post 476577)
NHRA has to do something to get Ford and Chrysler back into it. 14 Camaros and 2 Dodges just doesn't excite me anymore. Only one Dodge has a legitimate chance to win and he did last weekend. I was good with Glidden crushing everyone back in the day. :D

Fords Rule!

Jeff :)

So, your problem with Pro Stock is pretty much that there are no weight breaks or handicaps, everybody gets 500 cubic inches and 2350 pounds, and the same rules, but your favorite OE corporation won't make the effort to compete. So, they need to throw 300 pounds on the Chevrolets, and make them pull a plug wire if they are not racing another Chevrolet. Got it, thanks. Wonder why Alllen Johnson and Mopar don't need that?

Alan Roehrich 07-16-2015 01:54 PM

Re: NHRA ProStock changes coming!
 
I'll offer some constructive suggestions for improving Pro Stock.

First, get rid of the goofy bodies, go back to pure production bodies, or bodies in white, checked by templates. All steel. One small spoiler, no wicker bill, no spill plates, set 30 degree angle, body width, 6" tall. Stock wheelbase. Maximum. 6" hood scoop height. Maximum 16" X 33" slick. Fuel injection, 1500 cfm throttle body, maximum of two. No exotic materials in the engine, or anywhere else in the power train. Leave the current 500 cubic inch, 2350#, 5 forward speeds, manually shifted format in place. We're already asking teams to build all new cars and move to fuel injection. Forcing them to an entirely new power train program simply is not economically feasible or fiscally wise.

Make the cars look like production cars with slicks and a small hoodscoop. Fuel injected, since carburetors are apparently an evil relic of the dinosaur era. Leave the 5 year rule in place, two door rear wheel drive sport coupe only.

That allows the current power train programs to remain relatively intact, while moving into the fuel injected era, with cars fans can relate to, and keeping performance close to where it is, with an even set of relatively simple rules that are the same for everyone. Maybe Ford will play, maybe they won't, but if Chevy and Mopar will, then Ford has no excuse.

The new television contract combined with the marketing program should make it more attractive for OE corporations and sponsors.

Stocker 2 07-16-2015 02:30 PM

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Pay attention to the Factory Shootouts at select NHRA events and you will see where the Pro Stock replacement is coming from.

The factory wars are just getting started...........and the crowd goes wild!!!!!

randy wilson 07-16-2015 02:44 PM

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What crowd?

davidhuff 07-16-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 476591)
What crowd?

If you have ever have a chance to attended a NMRA Factory Cobra Jet Shootout in Bradenton,Florida you will see some great crowds and a lot of interest in these factory race cars.
John Calvert over Chris Holbrook


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