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The Hawk 08-28-2014 08:30 PM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 443444)
i thought indy was a $500. Entry fee ???

I thought Indy was more as well

Alan Roehrich 08-28-2014 08:34 PM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
A friend who did go told me that a car, driver, and 3 other people cost him over $700.

Rat Raceway 08-28-2014 08:37 PM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 443425)
They simply would have slowed them down to being just under one second under to avoid the AHFS hit,just like some old cars have been known to do.

What would have changed? They still would have qualified.

^This!!!




Being a new car owner it sucks having so much hate due to the FS cars. I wish they would work something out for them, because they are on a whole other level then the production cars that are sold. Anyone thinks off the floor cars go 1+ under when you buy them are just crazy.

As far as slowing down 442OLDS is spot on. I know of MANY old combos that have 1.00 under on tap anytime they want it. I was bitch slapped this year by one!:D

A wise fellow from Comp told me "Some guys want to go fast and some guys want to win! What do you want to be?"

Indy is one of the few the require both, but that's why it's the Super bowl of S/SS racing right?

(Flame suit on.):eek:

Andrew Hill 08-28-2014 11:49 PM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 443463)
Anyone thinks off the floor cars go 1+ under when you buy them are just crazy.

I don't care what they go off the floor. If you get out run by half a second by someone with the same combo, you should not qualify for the show even if you go 1.00 under.

I saw A LOT of all out runs from old cars (very fast old cars) this weekend in the .95 under range. Not many 1.00 under cars in Indy weather.

Mike Voth 08-29-2014 12:17 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 443423)
I don`t think being underrated has anything to do with it,it`s the FS cars with no HP penalty. I`d like to see what the qualifying sheet would look like if the FS cars had the same rules as the rest of the field for this event.

I don't think it would change. You'd just have 30 factory cars bunched up around a second under. All the .80 under cars would still be out looking in.

That's why NHRA needs an independent Factory class where they can beat each other up with no AHFS. Give the croud a show, but leave the real racing for 2007 and OLDER cars.

Mike Schwartz 08-29-2014 12:54 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Participants by class that qualified for Indy Stock field:

100.00% - G/S - 4/4
100.00% - I/SA - 3/3
100.00% - K/S - 3/3
100.00% - AA/SA - 2/2
100.00% - R/S - 2/2
100.00% - M/SA - 2/2
100.00% - U/SA - 2/2
100.00% - O/SA - 1/1
100.00% - P/S - 1/1
100.00% - Q/SA - 1/1
100.00% - V/S - 1/1
100.00% - EF/S - 1/1
93.33% - FS/A - 14/15
83.33% - BB/SA - 5/6
83.33% - H/SA - 5/6
80.00% - C/SA - 8/10
75.00% - E/S - 3/4
73.33% - FS/B - 11/15
69.23% - G/SA - 9/13
66.67% - CC/SA - 4/6
66.67% - K/SA - 4/6
66.67% - B/S - 2/3
66.67% - D/S - 2/3
58.82% - B/SA - 10/17
57.14% - E/SA - 4/7
56.25% - A/SA - 9/16
50.00% - F/SA - 4/8
50.00% - A/S - 2/4
50.00% - AAA/SA - 1/2
50.00% - C/S - 1/2
50.00% - L/SA - 1/2
50.00% - N/SA - 1/2
45.45% - D/SA - 5/11
00.00% - R/SA - 0/1
00.00% - W/S - 0/1
00.00% - J/SA - 0/2
00.00% - V/SA - 0/2

There would have been four 1-car-class bump-ins this year under the old system.

Bernie Cunningham 08-29-2014 01:27 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Mike V,
You're on the right path, the marketing of these cars is silly! Why don't they have their own eliminator and leave the pre '08 cars alone?
The longer they let 'em go the bigger the problem gets !

The disparity is obvious, cars that can run 8:50's, over 150 MPH in Stock Eliminator is absurd.!!

I think the public/fans/racers would like to see a show with the big 3 doing their stuff again but it's stupid to put 'em into the regular Stock Eliminator field, it does no good.

Separate them and build the show, it's a no brainer to me !! Let 'em run ?

gbur 08-29-2014 05:13 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 443520)
Mike V,
You're on the right path, the marketing of these cars is silly! Why don't they have their own eliminator and leave the pre '08 cars alone?
The longer they let 'em go the bigger the problem gets !

The disparity is obvious, cars that can run 8:50's, over 150 MPH in Stock Eliminator is absurd.!!

I think the public/fans/racers would like to see a show with the big 3 doing their stuff again but it's stupid to put 'em into the regular Stock Eliminator field, it does no good.

Separate them and build the show, it's a no brainer to me !! Let 'em run ?

Quite obvious that the hats worn by NHRA uppers are just rock bags

Lou Jeffery 08-29-2014 07:36 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
NHRA likes NEW fast cars! The Crate motors are much easier to keep track of.

David Daulton 08-29-2014 08:00 AM

Re: 59 stockers didnt make the cut of 128
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 443510)
I don't care what they go off the floor. If you get out run by half a second by someone with the same combo, you should not qualify for the show even if you go 1.00 under.

I saw A LOT of all out runs from old cars (very fast old cars) this weekend in the .95 under range. Not many 1.00 under cars in Indy weather.

I saw the same thing. A lot of really good older cars looked to be running all out this year, much more so than in recent years. Fighting for a solid spot in the second half of the ladder.


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