Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

I agree.

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Don't forget about the certain sweet spots where you get two byes! PM me or email me about the ladder software I advertised last year. Makes life way easier..

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Mr. Schwartz.... I am 100% behind you!.

ALL BYES IN THE FIRST RD!
Get down to even number for rd 2 (16, 32, or 64 cars)

In your example from post number 1....
Byes would go to 1 through 12 in rd 1
(13 vs 17, 14 vs 18, 15 vs 19, 16 vs 20)

Now... you must qualify in top 12 to get a bye
and... 16 cars (even field) are back for round 2

Me and Mike are probably the only ones that this makes sense to!

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

63-car field with this kind of ladder: 31 bye runs first round.

Existing 63-car ladder: total number of bye runs: 1


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Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Think outside of the box Michael.... one race to make it into the 64 car field. The other 63 cars don't have to run.

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Lets take a simple thing, like a qualifying ladder and complicate the sh&t out of it
...LOL!

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

I don't get it. How do you make a 64 car field from 63 cars?

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Sorry Bob.... I thought Michael said 65 (not 63).
Either way, if there were 63, he was correct, one bye run, and then there would be an even number left (32).

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

I've bracket raced and class raced with the AHRA and raced with the NSS and in most of those they drew a car number for the bye runs thereby making it a random choice rather than rewarding the top fast cars who could go the most under.

Just sayin'

JimR

Re: Where you qualify is very important
 

Jim, so what did AHRA do for the remaining rounds?
I really don't see AHRA as a good example to use for a business model.
My recollection in NSS was that a ladder was generated by qualifying by closest to one's own particular index.
Even the .90 classes "qualify' closest to, after a random first round.
You need some kind of system...hence odd number bye runs.