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Randy Parker 09-22-2013 09:03 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
al my engine builders told me if u wanta burn a piston put some cheap gas in it! Its a crazy world we live in and NHRA tech is amoung them!

Darrin Christen 09-22-2013 09:37 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
That's a tough deal for sure. Do they normally check fuel in the later rounds when it's not a heads up run? Those last two rounds were some tight packages, especially the final!

Andys dad 09-22-2013 10:17 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
I should not say anything here since I get confused easier that I use to

I have a 2/12 gallon red generator gas can and a clear 5 gal fuel jug

Hind sight is always easy - I have done some pretty dumb things in the last few years

Things - I do not think I did 5 years ago

That said - it is easy to make mistakes - hard to correct them

Just have a few drinks and move on

Some will kill me for this but - if you have an x-wife blame her - she would expect it

Ron

Michael Compton 09-22-2013 10:27 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Dumb questions here -

Does Bertozzi have to check fuel and weigh when reinstated?

Does Jared get to keep the semi round money?

Scott Creed 09-22-2013 11:57 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Simple Mistake. Bertozzi caught a break, because he got drug that round. Jared and Bobby are a win waiting to happen. I have to race them at bracket races and they're tough customers. Great guys and consider them good friends.

Little trivia, but his brother Derrick won the first "No Electronics" Wally at the Div 4 ET Finals in 1995.

Jeff Lee 09-23-2013 01:00 AM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 401238)
Ok, I know ahed of time that this is a dumb question. My wife and I are sitting here wondering why can't pump gas pass? Race gas is going to make you go quicker so if you make a mistake and put pump gas in why isn't it approved? It won't give you a performance advantage. Again, I'm new to the fine lines and don't understand what the big deal would be. ???

Some pump gas, as is sold here in arizona for example, are "oxygenated".
From the EPA:
Oxygenates are fuel additives that contain oxygen, usually in the form of alcohol or ether. Oxygenates can enhance fuel combustion and thereby reduce exhaust emissions. Some oxygenates also boost gasoline octane.

The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather. Winter oxygenated gasoline programs are implemented by the states. The links below provide information about oxygenated gasoline, winter oxygenated gasoline areas, oxygenates (such as ethanol and MTBE), and health effects testing of oxygenates.


Basically pump gas that has been oxygenated has qualities that are similar to those banned fuels unacceptable to NHRA. Since field testing is not able to decipher the exact recipe's used in the fuel being tested, if it a fuel check reveals certain properties, it's no good.
Now, proper field testing is a whole 'nother story.

Tar Heel 09-23-2013 08:28 AM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 401301)
Some pump gas, as is sold here in arizona for example, are "oxygenated".
From the EPA:
Oxygenates are fuel additives that contain oxygen, usually in the form of alcohol or ether. Oxygenates can enhance fuel combustion and thereby reduce exhaust emissions. Some oxygenates also boost gasoline octane.

The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather. Winter oxygenated gasoline programs are implemented by the states. The links below provide information about oxygenated gasoline, winter oxygenated gasoline areas, oxygenates (such as ethanol and MTBE), and health effects testing of oxygenates.


Basically pump gas that has been oxygenated has qualities that are similar to those banned fuels unacceptable to NHRA. Since field testing is not able to decipher the exact recipe's used in the fuel being tested, if it a fuel check reveals certain properties, it's no good.
Now, proper field testing is a whole 'nother story.

Ok, that makes sense now. Thank you for the explanation. I didn't understand why something would be banned that could actually hurt performance but now I see. I appreciate it.

oktire 09-23-2013 08:09 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Had some not pass. Sat over the winter and was to weak.

mtkawboy 09-23-2013 09:02 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
If you have an ex wife or two you've made bigger & more expensive mistakes then just gas in the wrong jug

Bobby Fazio 09-24-2013 11:23 PM

Re: DQed in the S/S Semi for fuel in Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Compton (Post 401287)
Dumb questions here -

Does Bertozzi have to check fuel and weigh when reinstated?

Does Jared get to keep the semi round money?

I would think no one gets to advance unless Anthony stayed behind and got checked. I don't think you can allow someone to go back to his or her trailer and then have them come back for a fuel and weight check. Brian Worner may be able to help out on this one, he was reinstated after his opponent came up light on the scales in a heads up 3rd round run they had.


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