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art leong 05-19-2013 01:43 PM

Re: Crankshaft harmonics?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THoagland (Post 382035)
Which damper you running?

I started running an Innovators West. I took it off because I thought I damaged it installing it. I sent it back and there was nothing wrong with it.
Now I'm running a solid metal pulley. This is an inline 4 cylinder. Quite a bit different than a V8.

SSDiv6 05-19-2013 11:39 PM

Re: Crankshaft harmonics?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 382100)
I started running an Innovators West. I took it off because I thought I damaged it installing it. I sent it back and there was nothing wrong with it.
Now I'm running a solid metal pulley. This is an inline 4 cylinder. Quite a bit different than a V8.

Art, running a solid metal pulley is a recipe for disaster on a high RPM 4 cylinder engine, especially if you do not have counterweights and no dampening.

Here is a link with some good discussion on the subject:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=107602

Ed Wright 05-20-2013 07:44 AM

Re: Crankshaft harmonics?
 
Artie, I would see if I could get Raymond Martin, (Baytown Texas?) to talk to me.

art leong 05-20-2013 09:39 AM

Re: Crankshaft harmonics?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 382192)
Art, running a solid metal pulley is a recipe for disaster on a high RPM 4 cylinder engine, especially if you do not have counterweights and no dampening.

Here is a link with some good discussion on the subject:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=107602

It's just that there are hundreds if not thousands of people running the same block and crank setup. Most are street cars and they use the aluminum pulley to underdrive the alternator. When racing they shift at the same rpms as I do (within 500 rpms). A lot make twice the power I make and three times the torque.
The one substantial difference is they are turbocharged. And I have to extract as much power as I can because of my lack of pressureized air.
I ran a crank with the counterweights removed. I'm starting to see that most if not all of my problems since I put this motor in the car. Might be traced back to the harmonics. My first problem was a broken stator support in the trans. Another problem that nobody that runs automatics and these motors had ever heard of.
The first motor I built was a mild (get to know the combo) verision. It ran trouble free for 2 years. And when I wanted to go fast it was shifted at the same rpms. With over 200 runs (a lot with improper fuel mixtures) the bearings looked like the day I built the car.
With the new motor the bearings allways looked weird (like there were oiling issues) in places that should not show issues. This was verified by this this time the rod bearings had only one easy run.


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