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sq34 02-04-2013 09:05 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Chad, sorry but he said Cleveland, I assumed that was a Ford reference. Maybe I need a better GM education.

D.Johns 02-05-2013 07:22 AM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
We get it Chad. You hate the Fords :D

Bill Diehl 10-29-2014 09:09 AM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by astikhossw (Post 367464)
Just a question are there any small block stocker that make 600 hp and is it possible to get that much power out of one with rules the way they are.Not talking about the turbo and supercharged engines.I would think a cleveland could make 600 hp as big as the cylinder heads and valves are.

675 :eek:

SSDiv6 10-29-2014 09:19 AM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by astikhossw (Post 367464)
Just a question are there any small block stocker that make 600 hp and is it possible to get that much power out of one with rules the way they are.Not talking about the turbo and supercharged engines.I would think a cleveland could make 600 hp as big as the cylinder heads and valves are.

There is more to it than having big port volumes and big valves.

JRyan 10-29-2014 01:41 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
"675" -- So you're telling us that your D/S Mustang Boss 351 is going to run 9.80's at 3550, LEGALLY! Dream on. I'm sure Kuntz and Keith Kraft would be real interested to be there for the teardown.

Jerry

Bill Diehl 10-29-2014 01:49 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRyan (Post 451252)
"675" -- So you're telling us that your D/S Mustang Boss 351 is going to run 9.80's at 3550, LEGALLY! Dream on. I'm sure Kuntz and Keith Kraft would be real interested to be there for the teardown.

Jerry

C/S... 3365 I bumped it up a class and yes it will, some of you know me, some of you don't...now, the paste is out of the tube....if I can ever get the car finished.... Did you know that putting toothpaste back in the tube is next to impossible, but running deep into the 9's LEGALLY is not...wait, got to have a good working car though

I will sell you the motor

carry on

Bill Diehl 10-29-2014 01:59 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 451212)
There is more to it than having big port volumes and big valves.

yes, there is........

JRyan 10-29-2014 02:11 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Yeah, well at 3365 it has to go low 9.60's in C. I don't care who knows you or who you know, I said, "LEGALLY". That means you don't get to run a 15 to 1 piston with the right Number on it, and a deeper valve relief to support wild .050" specs on a huge cam. That's ONLY six tenths faster that the fastest C/S car so far this year and two tenths faster than the fastest A/S car. Apparently all those guys are stupid.

Jerry

SSDiv6 10-29-2014 02:16 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Once Upon A Time...Many years ago...
There was a very fast 1971 351 Cleveland in Division X...
Got torn down many times and everytime it got torn down, the driver will change the limiter and go another 10th quicker just to make NHRA go crazy.

One day, I got a call from NHRA tech asking me if there was a way or method to shrink cast iron. So, I ask Why?

NHRA had gone and procured a virgin set of Cleveland heads with the same part number used by the offender. They had the cylinder heads prepped with a legal valve job and appropriate parts.

When they poured the runners, the numbers were way smaller than the numbers they had recorded on the racer's cylinder heads. They could not figure out what had taken place since they had also measured the width of the cylinder head to make sure they had not machined the intake and exhaust surfaces excessively to maintain the volume numbers. :o ;) :)

Bill Diehl 10-29-2014 02:36 PM

Re: 600 hp small block stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRyan (Post 451257)
Yeah, well at 3365 it has to go low 9.60's in C. I don't care who knows you or who you know, I said, "LEGALLY". That means you don't get to run a 15 to 1 piston with the right Number on it, and a deeper valve relief to support wild .050" specs on a huge cam. That's ONLY six tenths faster that the fastest C/S car so far this year and two tenths faster than the fastest A/S car. Apparently all those guys are stupid.

Jerry

No disrespect to anybody but I probably turn my stuff a lot higher than most, the cam is right and the compression is right according to what the book says. the valvetrain....:eek: gonna hurt some feelings

I am not throwing away money just to bracket race, I have one intention and one intention only...that is too set records, and since there are no other Boss351's out there to hurt anybodys feelings I don't see a problem

BTW, we are still searching for more power there is a lot left to rub on......did I just say that?

A well respect cylinder head man said once.....the two hardest classes out there are Pro Stock and Stock.....

Besides that......90% are convinced that fords can't fall out of a tree anyway...why ya worried?


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