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Todd Boyer 05-04-2012 05:47 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Jeez, I was disappointed when they got rid of stock rear springs...

SPS 05-04-2012 08:04 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Bobbie:
Seems like an odd question coming from you.

What you don't see is the engineering and work involved in building a modern Super Stock racecar chassis.

These no longer have 40 plus year old stock suspensions but well designed and constructed components to handle the power and speed of today's Super Stock engines.

Those of us that have build and are building these racecars primarily specialize in them alone. We have continued to keep these cars state of the art........and safe.

FJ Smith

Ernie Neal 05-04-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NWDragracing (Post 324875)
Do you also mean that FWD should stay FWD and not converted to a RWD???:confused:

I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

Ernie Neal
SS 354

NWDragracing 05-04-2012 09:51 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernie Neal (Post 324914)
I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

Ernie Neal
SS 354

Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.

Sean Cour 05-04-2012 10:15 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NWDragracing (Post 324930)
Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.

This is why the fwd conversions only run GT. If you want to run another car headsup, and have it be fair, run your rwd car in Super stock.

BlueOval Ralph 05-05-2012 12:22 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
But some of the new Mustangs have adapted the GT Struts

NWDragracing 05-05-2012 12:24 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 324933)
This is why the fwd conversions only run GT. If you want to run another car headsup, and have it be fair, run your rwd car in Super stock.

Why, worried that a RWD built under the same rules would be competitive against a FWD??? :eek::)

Bobby Bennett 05-10-2012 04:59 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
I wouldn't be surprised if you see new rule changes aimed at making the older cars safer for the speeds they are running. Just saying.

BlueOval Ralph 05-10-2012 05:36 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
You never answered Why you think the older cars are unsafe! Are you after a r&p for your Chevy II?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett (Post 325921)
I wouldn't be surprised if you see new rule changes aimed at making the older cars safer for the speeds they are running. Just saying.


Bobby Bennett 05-10-2012 05:48 PM

Re: Aftermarket Rack & Pinion
 
ask any of the Hemi guys about breaking a box and losing steering. Of course, I'd love to have a modern day manufactured rack and pinion on my wagon -- running in the nines as opposed to the stock unit. Who wouldn't?


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