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Jeff Lee 03-08-2011 07:21 PM

Re: Spark Timing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hill (Post 244488)
Art, what did the turbo cars like for timing?

My AF/S Shelby w/ VP116 & 25+ PSI boost liked 38-40 degrees total!

Billy Nees 03-09-2011 09:53 AM

Re: Spark Timing
 
That's because you were trying to use VP-116 and 25. Burns too slow and kills your EGTs and boost.

art leong 03-09-2011 10:42 AM

Re: Spark Timing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 244684)
That's because you were trying to use VP-116 and 25. Burns too slow and kills your EGTs and boost.

I actually ran quicker with pump gas. For nhra races I used the cheapest acceptable fuel I could get.
EGT's were 1800 at the finish line on the best runs.

Jeff Lee 03-09-2011 05:09 PM

Re: Spark Timing
 
This was when dialing in with a lap-top was "exotic" back in the dinosaur age of the mid '90's. I ran it rich with over sized injector's after melting three heads and knocking the crowns off three sets of factory pistons. Once I figured rich was not fast but safe, I never had a problem again. I always figured a sharper tuner than I could get it into the 12's. It took about 10 years for anybody to top my 13.26 record so it must not have been all bad! :D

art leong 03-09-2011 06:10 PM

Re: Spark Timing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 244777)
This was when dialing in with a lap-top was "exotic" back in the dinosaur age of the mid '90's. I ran it rich with over sized injector's after melting three heads and knocking the crowns off three sets of factory pistons. Once I figured rich was not fast but safe, I never had a problem again. I always figured a sharper tuner than I could get it into the 12's. It took about 10 years for anybody to top my 13.26 record so it must not have been all bad! :D

Jeff the trick was to use pistons with over 100,000 miles on them. They are coated with carbon. I never had any tuning, just fuel pressure. My turbo wouldn't put out more than 18 pounds in the best conditions, but it was the small mitsubishi not the garret.
Ran a 13.46 with the Spirit on pump gas. On a mineshart day at Cecil County.

Mart Jeltema 03-10-2011 05:11 PM

Re: Spark Timing
 
This is a loaded question. BST differs from the dyno to race track in many cases. On our open chamber 10:1 engines we run anywhere from 42-46 degrees. BSFC numbers will vary with BARO (CALT) etc. It's a at the track tuning.






MJ


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