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Dennis P Chapman 03-04-2011 03:20 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Tear downs are no fun at all plain and simple. If your setting a record that is your chose.

Nitro Joe Jackson 03-04-2011 03:27 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Back in the day.............When my father won a national event at a AHRA or IHRA national event Vance Brady of AHRA would walk over and congratulate you and then tell you before we do winner circle pictures, we need a head off and then you can party as the winner.
But that was back in the day.

GTX JOHN 03-04-2011 03:54 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Most of the old Mopars have at least a couple of combos that are pretty easy to get 3 or 4 under on a budget. The challenge is starting with zero data base on stock eliminator racing. If we go out of our way to help new racers with a little help and encouragement....... it can not hurt. In the early 90's I remember Jess Suter letting me look at his suspension when no one else would let me near their cars. I remember the Etters helping me with Cams and Carbs in the same period. Larry Maxwell at my first race and again whenever I needed took the time to show me the right direction. Most of them got criticized by other racers for their trouble. If it was not for a little kindness they showed ..... I would have gone back to bracket racing again!

If you see a new guy.......take a few minutes to introduce yourself and help them....It is good for the Eliminator.

If anyone Ever needs any help or advise: just Message me or my boys and we will get your car to run under on a budget....may take me a week sometimes (Health) but happy to help.

We have been down four times in the last year with our stockers (once voluntarily when setting record). Nobody really enjoys it......especially in the rain or bad weather. But it is pretty much always been part of how the deal works if you want to run Stock/SuperStock!














Irving Family Racing

Dave Ribeiro 03-04-2011 04:41 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Wade,

Come race with us before you try to change things ? Forget Nationals, they will be a thing of the past in a couple of years ... As Mark or Ed said , there are very few tear downs @ Div. & opens.
As Ed said, thats why you have bracket racing, no-rules, race any car, motor, buttons, slicks, etc... Has anyone ask why wondered why Stk &
S/S racers keep coming back , inspite of all the complaints ?

Wade, please don't take it personal, but everyone keeps trying to change things to their own agenda ...

As I said before this is going to be a tough year for racing, unless you have a big sponsor ? Racer's , have been upset with NHRA & IHRA before the lose of Jobs, now with gas prices going to 4-5 dollars a gallon for tow rigs... ($10-18 for race gas) not counting entry fees, hotels, food, etc ... Not doom & Gloom, just real facts that effect how racers will have to balance their schedule ... This is what is driving the low numbers @ Nationals not tear-downs.
One last thing about teardowns , we all know of racers who have never been torn down in 10-15 years ? Other racers get torndown 4-5 times a year, how does everyone gets torndown at least once a year sound ? ... That way everyone get to share the Fun !!! To be continued ...........................
Wade, how's the Vette coming ?

Billy Nees 03-04-2011 05:18 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Ribeiro (Post 243875)
how does everyone gets torndown at least once a year sound ?

Dave, I'm good with that but I doubt you'll get NHRA to go along with it. They just don't have enough knowledgable manpower anymore. But at least I'd like to see more spot checks even at Divisionals. It doesn't take long to look at a carb, pull a valvecover, pull a header or even pull an intake or P+G a motor. Remember, you don't really need the threat of a teardown looming over your head to keep you legal, you only need the threat of the possibility of being torn down. As it stands now, the only real chance of a teardown is at Indy or after setting a record.

Dave Ribeiro 03-04-2011 08:03 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Billy,

You are right On about the teardowns , but its nice to keep them honest .....

Wade Mahaffey 03-04-2011 08:35 PM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
Please excuse me fellas, I'm not trying/wanting to change things for I have no dog in the fight. But I am building an entry and would just like to see Super/Stock racing still around when I get done. I don't have any hate or bottled-up anger at NHRA, IHRA, fuel cost, enhancements etc. I've got plenty eggs, and there all in different baskets. If Super/Stock is dead when I get there, I won't miss a beat. There's plenty I can do with my machine. As far as the economy, I see it as just having to put forth more effort to do something I like. I've worked two jobs my whole adult life, and am now retired from one of them. I will be bracket racing alot using a mule engine with simular power to get up to speed and comfortable in the seat. I gotta get used to looking thru the back window.

Dave, thanks for asking about the Corvette. I am currently repairing all the little stress cracks from over the years. I did some little "Bonneville" inhancements, not modifications to the factory body though. It's comming along and I can see a light at the end of the tunnel (and it's not a head light)LOL

Wade Mahaffey

Casey Miles 03-05-2011 12:23 AM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
I'm one of the cars that can only go maybe 2-3 under on a good day, but I carry a spare head gasket with me all the time for a tear down. (hoping I'm not asked though) Not worried about it, it wouldn't be my first time to the barn. I'm in agreement that even the slower cars in qualifying needs to be look at.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

james schaechter 03-05-2011 08:55 AM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
There is very little risk of teardown as it is, if we take that away, we might as well be "unleashed". my 2 cents.

Bob Pagano 03-05-2011 10:01 AM

Re: What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?
 
James, There in is where nhra wants to go, no engines to check. Only a safety inspection and done. As a group we better watch what we ask for or your going to be unleashed alright.


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