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Jeff Teuton 12-14-2010 01:24 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
How about I take the blame so everyone else can move on to the Christmas Holidays and enjoy themselves. Problem solved.

X-TECH MAN 12-14-2010 01:30 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 227866)
What is real stock?

Acid ported heads that are covered up?
Bogus Acid ported intakes?
Aftermarket pistons?
Aftermarket Rods?
Trick valve jobs?
Trick ring combos?
These this have all been around for well over 30 years.

It’s funny all you guys that have $5000 plus cylinder heads and $1000 plus intakes are crying because it not fair. You guys can’t win, new cars are too fast. But these are the same guys that have been flying in the past. These guys are the ones that have been cheating for the past 10 plus years(in the Cylinder head and intake department) . And now the tables have turned and you all don’t like it. That is the real problem with the new cars, the cheaters can’t cheat their way to the top anymore.
And what should be done when the HP factors catch up (kind of) and the owners of these new combos start the playing thats being done already (heads, Intakes, etc.) in the older cars. Then again maybe its ALREADY being done with the new cars....LOL.

JCChildress 12-14-2010 01:35 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
I'll share it with ya Jeff.

Merry Christmas to you and all my Cajun buddies !

Michael Beard 12-14-2010 01:39 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
Ok, it's Jeff's fault. :cool: No, really!

I'm pretty sure there's going to be one Drag Pak that's worth the investment.

Larry Hill 12-14-2010 01:46 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
It's Christmas time and we all should be thankful. One thing I'm thankful for is the JOY in knowing that "Little Bubba's" family tree will stop with him, for he lacks that ability to reproduce, or make any clanging sound at all.

smracer2002 12-14-2010 02:07 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen (Post 227872)
All you guys keep saying the magic word "Customer" to NHRA you are just that. Myself if I don't like the way I'm being treated as a "Customer" I find some where else to spend my money. It's as simple as that, many of you post as if your entire life has been turned upside down by this if that's the case then I feel for you, drag racing is a HOBBY not life or death. It's hard to believe that someone can be so hateful over something that's supposed to be fun.Maybe we all need to sit back for a while and ask ourselves.... just why do I race? Joe

I believe the proper term is "member" but we are treated as "customers".

That is one of the differences between NHRA and other sanctioning bodies.
We sure get treated different in SCCA and NASA and we have memberships
there also.

I have no dog in the class racing hunt but have helped out on plenty of
Stock and S/S cars over the years.I would hate to see the car count get
worse and not because of the economy.

I agree with buzzins post.


And it IS Teutons fault.

Charley Downing 12-14-2010 03:34 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
X-tech man
The playing is already done, CNC ported heads, CNC ported intakes and Jesel like rocker arms. What is left? That's why when Holbrook put the SS motor in his car it only picked up .25. Making any other STK motor into a SS motor you would pick up .60 to 1.00. There is not much left for these cars to improve on.

MikeFicacci 12-14-2010 03:42 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
AA was never really a great idea. The 10.60 (10.90) index was even worse. New cars are awfully close to needing parachutes. Plus, no "old car" in AA can even qualify for Indy.

Chad Rhodes 12-14-2010 03:44 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 227902)
AA was never really a great idea. The 10.60 (10.90) index was even worse. New cars are awfully close to needing parachutes. Plus, no "old car" in AA can even qualify for Indy.
It was a good idea from the standpoint of taking some of the weight out of the cars that never in a million years weighed 3700 lbs, really bad execution and it opened pandora's box

X-TECH MAN 12-14-2010 03:56 PM
Re: Who's fault are the new cars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 227901)
X-tech man
The playing is already done, CNC ported heads, CNC ported intakes and Jesel like rocker arms. What is left? That's why when Holbrook put the SS motor in his car it only picked up .25. Making any other STK motor into a SS motor you would pick up .60 to 1.00. There is not much left for these cars to improve on.
Racers being racers there is always room for improvement. With all of that CNC work and Jesel parts they should already be in S/S. That stuff does not belong in a stocker ! NHRA has lost their minds on this deal. Its all NHRA's fault. You cant blame the factory.


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