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Dgal 10-05-2010 11:41 AM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M&M Motorsports (Post 214735)
Larry,
Like you and many others, we are faced with the same situation. We have to, however, believe that NHRA is not only aware of this dilemma, but also actively working on changes for the 2011 season. Comments on this site have helped to raise awareness and facilitate the upcoming changes. However, at this point, we need to be patient and await whatever changes are coming. At that point, each of us can assess the impact those changes will have on our individual combinations. It is important that we collectively try to move in a positive direction. It is best for us as individuals and our sport as a whole.

Sites like this allow free expression of many different views, but I am saddened to see the personal attacks on you and others, rather than addressing the actual issue. This has a tendency to reduce our effectiveness, as a group, with those (like NHRA) who monitor this site. Just remember the immortal words of John Wayne -- "A big mouth don't make a big man".
Geeze, did you have to be so reasonable? Great post and I felt it needed repeating.

Don

Tommy Gaynor 10-05-2010 11:49 AM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
I don't get it, 99% of you guys that are crying over this can't out run the top 5 guys with "traditional" cars anyway. You don't see Bobby D, Jimmy D or Joe Sorensen crying and fire selling all there stuff. I guess I might listen a little more if you were the fastest guy in the class but I don't think you are in the top 10!

Larry Hill 10-05-2010 02:03 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Tommy, a friend of mine, Stewart Beckham, said hello.

You are correct my old Cuda never was fast, all of the class trophies must have come from yard sales.

Glenn Person 10-05-2010 02:39 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Tommy
I assume Bobby, Jimmy and Joe rarely post on the internet because they are working dilligently to stay on top of their game and stay competetive. Since you say you have not heard from any racers in the top of their class I felt compelled to reply .As you know, over the years I have tried to be fast and was occasionally rewarded with a record or three. Now you arn't really so callious to think these aforementioned front running racers and their" traditional" cars deserve to be rendered non competetive in heads up competetion by the new combos. All we accomplish by this is to force these beautiful old muscle cars away from racing and ultimately reduce car counts. This is not good for NHRA or stk/ss. I don't believe any real racer wants this kind of scenario, but only wishes a fair chance to win with his or her chosen ride. For some, "going with confidence" is not currently possible. I am confident NHRA want to reduce this disparity, and is working at this as we speak.
Hope to see you and your dad this fall
GP

Peter Ash 10-05-2010 02:46 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!

X-TECH MAN 10-05-2010 03:12 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter ash (Post 214784)
maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!
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BPotts 10-05-2010 07:57 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 214790)
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X3

I don't remeber all the details, but when the GM fuel injectected cars came on the scene did they go directly into the "fuel Injected" classes to sort themselves out or did they originally go into the regular stock classes? Now, knowing that they did put them in their own classes for a while to sort out the HP ratings, why didn't the DP and the CJ do the same thing?

Jim Cimarolli 10-05-2010 08:38 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Ash (Post 214784)
Maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!
I think that an old drunk with a "Big Chief" tablet and one of those big first grade pencils could do it too!!

K Stubbs 10-05-2010 09:11 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BPotts (Post 214881)
X3

I don't remeber all the details, but when the GM fuel injectected cars came on the scene did they go directly into the "fuel Injected" classes to sort themselves out or did they originally go into the regular stock classes? Now, knowing that they did put them in their own classes for a while to sort out the HP ratings, why didn't the DP and the CJ do the same thing?
There wasnt any fuel injected classes when they were first raced and it caused the same kind of problems. The new cars outrunning the old (most), until they were factored several times.

Dgal 10-05-2010 09:16 PM
Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli (Post 214896)
I think that an old drunk with a "Big Chief" tablet and one of those big first grade pencils could do it too!!
What makes you think this isn't what happened? :)


Don


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