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Dwight Southerland 01-13-2010 09:51 AM
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An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

Billy Nees 01-13-2010 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 162670)
An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe 6s with weight break and bigger throttle body and 4s with (dare I say it) OEM turbo but with TBI restriction.

Billy Nees 01-13-2010 10:10 AM
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Michael Beard, if you are following this would you dust off and post your "International Pro Stock" please. I know that it's not "stock" but it's "21st century stock" and I've always thought that it could develop a good following.

GUMP 01-13-2010 10:23 AM
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My vote would be to leave it alone. If you want to see class racing come to an end changes like this would be the way to do it.

Billy Nees 01-13-2010 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 162455)
If a new Stock could be created, could there be a concensus on the basic qualities it needs?
Would it be Cheap?to buy?
Would it be many or few combinations?( Like a ford class or a chevy class or combined)
Would it be only Newer cars?(to add younger interest or identification)current cars not qualified to run due to rules limitation.
Would it be very limited modifications of motor to cut costs?( sealed versus spec versus claimer)
Would a class where all peoples current cars could run with a very limited motor rule allowing them to save money on trans and motor builds be okay? New pure motor , previous cars chassis to save money?
Gump, please read the first post! We're not trying to "change" anything! We're passing time on a winters day by doing some "brain farting". Would you care to participate? If not then why are you reading this thread!

Billy Nees 01-13-2010 11:31 AM
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Dick didn't specifically say "
heads up" but I've been leaning that way in my posts.
I think the only way to keep a "heads up" eliminator under control is to seriously restrict the intake tract and the RPM potential of the motors.

Dick Butler 01-13-2010 11:42 AM
Re: Pick basics of new eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 162670)
An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.
Would there need to be a 4 or a 6 motor? Would it start as one class or 2 classes SB and BB or would you expect enough cars to justify any other class at all ?
I could see everyone who currently has a car able to move to one or the other class with only a cheaper motor combination added. Regardless of body, or previous motor (might exclude FWD though)( Not a comment against anyones favorite only discussion)
Goal Keep minimum classes, Maximum entrants. And eliminate dial in feature?Or would varied car wts demand group of classes(BUT cheaper Basic)

Dick Butler 01-13-2010 01:04 PM
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Steve, As questions were raised one could be should there be MANY classes? few classes? a class for everyone or few classes that people chose to race? Just question. Is the Large number of classes today best for diversity or worst for low participation per class?
Go Billy.....

Dave Turner 01-13-2010 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 162694)
Dick

I have to say if there isn't a place for 4 and 6 cyl motors I'm just not interested at all. We already have enough ape's out there that think there is no place for anything but 8 Cyls in racing. Racing only 8 Cyls is Close minded.
You go girl!!!

Dwight Southerland 01-13-2010 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Polhill (Post 162684)
My Only Fear with a Heads up class is that it will end up like all the other heads up classes. The guy with the most money Wins..
Me too!

What about starting with a format similar to what Div. 1 did with Top Stock and Junior Stock? There probably needs to be a transition plan to allow people to race what they have in the current environment and also participate in a new eliminator formula. I prefer a heads-up race for both the competitors and the spectators sake. Odds are that a spectator base will not be attracted to an index-breakout race.


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