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I second it. Never met the man but hear many good things about him.

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Pat, you couldn't have stated it any better. As far as sportsman racer, we all have an income range that allows us to participate in NHRA events. Some have higher incomes, some lower. When prices are raised, there will be racers at the bottom of that income range who decides it is no longer economically worth their time, money, and effort to participate in NHRA events. They will go elsewhere to race, reduce their racing schedules, or quit all together. When the prices are lower, you not only keep that group of people racing, you attract new racers because it is now economically viable for them to join and race in the NHRA.

The NHRA has to start from within. They need to cut internal operating costs which includes wages. In turn they can lower all fees associated with racing which will attract more racers.

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Perhaps copies of Mr. Joffroin's analysis should be sent to the NHRA leadership so that they can understand how to actually run a business correctly!

JimR

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WHAT EVER PAT SAID, X-------100"s, But then again they have never listened , why would they start now ?
What Pat and the others said, I agree with and hope someone in GLENDORA gets off thier butts and does something soon !
I just hope I live long enough to see it , and still be Racing.......Later John

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I had let my NHRA membership go for several years, and just joined again last summer. I signed up for two years at the time. Then, they jacked the fees, and because of this, when my membership is up, it will lapse once again.

Ironically, when trying to listen to the Audiocast this weekend, the login told me that my membership was expired, even though it's good til next August. Wow... "how to make friends and influence people"...

We need more Pat Joffrions.

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pat you cost me paying my membership at your place...
if you didnt have the best damn race ever (killer sportsnationals) i would not have paid my membership !

anyway i seriously think its time to form a new organization... and i will be the first to send my $150 to the new group... i personally think pat would be the best person to be president / ceo / czar whatever and i think we could muster enough support from fed up racers / track owners / techmen to pull it off. you cant fix stupid and that is what we are trying to do with nhra.

jack mccarthy

and ill be there again for your race pat... just tell me when !

hell its only 800-900 miles !

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Chairman heck, I'll vote Pat for President!! Sack of Mud Bugs in every pot. Thanks Pat for looking out for our sport & drivers.

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

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If NHRA cared about the little guys it would be different, but they dont.

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Hey,what happened to Mark's post??????????????????????????

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In these harsh economic times even the big bracket races that take place down here in Florida are taking a beating. When I first moved down here (1992), the 5 Day at Moroso had about 370 to 390 cars if I recall correctly, this year there about 130 cars. Some of the lost car count has to do with the track operation but most of it is from the economy. Immoc Winter Warm up had something like 70 to 80 cars and Gmp had somewhere around 120 cars. This should be sending a message to NHRA and IHRA that they can't keep operating as they did and that they should take into consideration that not everyone has the deep pockets that used to prevail. I'm repeating myself in past posts, that I looked at the lousey $10 (from $150 to $160) increase in the entry fee for a D2 race, which made me make a decision that I will not attend a D2 race until they start lower the entry fees.
The entry fee for the D2 races should also support a much more lucritive purse for the racers also. Pay $160 to win a $1000, (can't include decals) is crazy when I can pay $40 to win $650 at my local track.
NHRA, WAKE UP!!!

Casey Miles
248H