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junior barns 05-07-2009 01:14 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
John Kelley Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?

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Originally Posted by George Fitzpatrick
So according to the rule book p48 (weighing of vehicle/fuel check) Fred Henson should have been disqualified from the event. And the run should not have counted. Unless I’m reading it wrong.

Perhaps at the race at Belle Rose being a first round loser he was waved past the scales.I've seen that a lot...


Both good points!! I dont know the answer. Perhaps this should be a change for the future. All participants must scale and pass fuel, win or lose in eliminations, if all runs are going to count towards AHFS? I'm just guessing why one may have got hit and the other did'nt!

Does anyone know if the 427/425 got hit for sure or not

John Kelley 05-07-2009 02:00 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
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Perhaps this should be a change for the future. All participants must scale and pass fuel, win or lose in eliminations, if all runs are going to count towards AHFS? I'm just guessing why one may have got hit and the other didn't!
It would be great if they did ! But I think it's a time factor deal...70+ cars in Stock at Belle Rose would have taken over an hour to weigh all of them. Plus a bunch more in SS & Comp....
Maybe they need more than one scale...but there will always be a diffrence in scales. Not an easy solution !

Ed Fernandez 05-07-2009 02:14 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 119392)
It would be great if they did ! But I think it's a time factor deal...70+ cars in Stock at Belle Rose would have taken over an hour to weigh all of them. Plus a bunch more in SS & Comp....
Maybe they need more than one scale...but there will always be a diffrence in scales. Not an easy solution !

Here in Div 1 we almost allways have over 70 cars and we all go over the scales.And a ton of SS and comp. cars and alcohol and others.
Seems the division guys are either getting lax or Glendora sickness setting in.
I think all the fast guys should just start running full out and shedding weight between the stripe and the scales.The first one tossed or given HP should retain a shylock lawyer and rolll the dice.

Ed F.

George Fitzpatrick 05-07-2009 02:33 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
If Fred’s run counted for the AHFS. It should have been mandatory that he got weight and fuel checked. How many cars go 1.40 under? I’m sure they could weight & fuel check 1 or 2 cars. But junior barns made a good point.

Jim Cimarolli 05-07-2009 02:35 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
I would say that if a racer looses an elimination round and he is not directed to go to the scales then he is not required to do so.

George Fitzpatrick 05-07-2009 02:43 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
If it’s going to cost over 100LBS he should. That one run By Fred Made the Ebodys with a Hemi Extinct.

George Fitzpatrick 05-07-2009 02:50 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
By the way Sorenson thought it, out and saved a lot racers weight.

Chuck Beach 05-07-2009 03:00 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
I agree with you Jim, but if it is a run of 1.40 or more under and it will affect your HP rating then it should be mandatory to weigh and tear down regardless of whether you win or lose. (although not in the rule book) I think this whole thread has gotten off the topic of what really happened. I don't care if it was windy, I don't care if the scales were fluctuating, I don't care if your weather station said you were going to slow down, if you ran 1.391 under why would you take the chance of possibly going faster. I was not there but if water was indeed drained from the raditor or anyother item was removed from the car that was in the car during the run should have remained in the car when scaled (including the water). So tell me, does this set a rule of thumb for anyone that goes 1.40 under, take what you can out of the car (drain the water, drain the oil, drain the trans fluid, leave your jacket, helmet and pants with the car behind you) so that you are light and the run doesn't count? I would like to see someone get that by Bruce or Travis here in D3 ...

That is the biggest problem I have with NHRA is the inconsistancy across divisions.

Jim Cimarolli 05-07-2009 03:06 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
I see your point Chuck.

Jim Bailey 05-07-2009 03:23 PM

Re: No HP on the Sorenson combo?
 
.....If a man's mistakes determine what he was, then what he does about those mistakes determine what he is .......... If Sorenson's get no HP, then the right thing for NHRA to do is tell Fred Henson; we're sorry, we made a mistake, and remove the HP off the Hemi A body. Especially because the circumstances are so similar. If not, then Sorenson's get HP too. It's black and white. The only thing missing here is a little Gray Matter. JB


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