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Jeff Lee 03-30-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
NHRA has a system for adjusting HP called the AHFS. The system is more difficult to apply due to sandbagging which can sometimes be attributed to running excess weight. Therefore, NHRA SHOULD mandate weight as defined within the parameters of the weight break, i.e., 9.00-9.49 equals C/S-A or SS/G-A, no more, no less.
I'd be willing to bet most, if not all vehicles with drivers can be run within those parameters given NHRA allows movement up or down a class.
I would encourage NHRA to enforce such a rule. It would help the AHFS work as designed.

Jim Cimarolli 03-30-2009 01:35 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I think what they are trying to do is make sure we don't have more than 100 lbs. of "removable" weight.

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Rocky J, I used to know a Rocky J in Jersey, you wouldn't be him would you? In answer to your question, because the Caddy is a V/8 car and can't fit a lower class then U/SA becomes it's natural class so it would be a natural U/SA no matter what it weighs above 21.99. BUT in order for it to run T/SA it should have to break above 19.99.

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 01:52 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Charlie, actually there is such a rule and whoever told you that is mistaken. It's right in their black and white rulebook under "Class Weight Breaks". Either they need to enforce their rules or reword the rulebook.

Jared Jordan 03-30-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli (Post 112313)
I think what they are trying to do is make sure we don't have more than 100 lbs. of "removable" weight.

I agree. There's nothing in the rulebook, express or implied, which indicates that NHRA has a rule requiring racers to run within the 1/2 lb weight break range required for the class. The only wording in the rulebook re: maximum weight is that you can't have more than 100 lbs of "removable" ballast. So my guess is that the only way NHRA can really do anything about excess weight in a class car is if the racer shows up more than 100 lbs. different from one run to another. The theory being that you can't change more than 100 lbs if you only have 100 lbs. of "removable" ballast.

That being said, I'd hope that NHRA notices the trend of racers running significantly heavier than their minimum and doesn't allow it to become policy (if it's not too late already...). If NHRA wants to enforce this "rule" then they need to supplement the rulebook with some sort of unambiguous language.

herbjr 03-30-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Its very clear in the rule book

a/sa 8.00 to 8.49
b/sa 8.50 to 8.99.

That tells you exactaly where you need to be. Whats the confusion.

Angela Macy 03-30-2009 05:37 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Peterson (Post 112303)
i weigh the better part of 320 ....

Are you serious? You're a big boy (tall wise) but you don't look that BIG. You carry it well!!

herbjr 03-30-2009 05:43 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Guess that Explaines why Brandon Runs M/CM. Cant get any heavier.

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Actually Jared, it is expressed in black print on a white page under"Class Weight Breaks". By implying that there is a minimum weight I would guess that that is an implication of there being a maximum weight.

Jim Cimarolli 03-30-2009 06:14 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I have seen this rule enforced at a D-4 race. If a racer books a qualifying pass at more than 100 lbs. over the minimum, he cannot remove more than 100 lbs. less than that number regardless of his minimum weight.


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