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Mark Yacavone 07-22-2008 01:12 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 76540)
Mark,

For ten years or more nhra has used the term class winners bump-in to fill the field. As you know, they like to call the shots around here. Like old Dylan said "the times ... they are a chang'n"

Bruce, I didn't realize that. I was looking for that section in an 05 rule book last night, and couldn't find it. Can someone point me to it?

Lynn, Of course ,I knew what you meant. But , how a question is phrased in a poll ,sometimes contributes to the outcome that the poll-er wants.
We know this from politics, right boys?

Larry Hill 07-22-2008 01:15 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Lynn, I think the poll should be voted on by only s/ss racers that have competed in the last two years.

Father Time 07-22-2008 01:59 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Whats wrong with a single class car winning class and getting in. Its not the car owners fault that no one else wishes to run the class he has choosen. He deserves to be treated the same as the ones with multiple entries. Or is his money not good enough. It is nice to see a lowly class racer out there taking on the big money outfits. And given a chance they can win. Just thinking. Put them in according to the amout of money sunk in a combination to make it go fast. R/SA

Dave Ribeiro 07-22-2008 02:04 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Larry,


I couldn't agree more, it should only be voted on by the people involved, not every tom, dick and harry... Yes, you need to be a current racer S & S/S... Just becareful what you wish for, Mark has a point on the wording... Isn't this a done deal, why are we polling NOW and what happened to the - 2 tenths ??? Can we just have a FINAL set of Rules !!!!
I have heard of working process, but this is crazy............ Dave,

Bruce Noland 07-22-2008 02:08 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Mark,
I have heard it referred to as class winner bump in for years. Also, I believe you will find the term has been used for many years on the nhra site. Check the results pages for Indy.

Larry, you're right this should be a racers only poll.

Oclk Dlux 07-22-2008 05:45 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 76559)
Next on the agenda, no heads up runs in eliminations!
There is a movement afoot this moment to institute that!

No heads up? Then they might as well throw out the car classification & engine specs as they won't be needed to run this glorified high dollar bracket race. Oh and let's call it Pro & Super Pro while we're at it, or are those names not as glamorous to all the "bracket racer wanna be class racers".

My LeBaron is currently 1.2 under the BF/S index and I can find more. I put in some hard work in case I had to run heads up as this is supposed to be a performance orientated class. But since they may be getting rid of heads up, then what's the point. Might as well go beat up on some Hondas on import night.

If it was me, I'd have Stock & Super Stock be heads up ONLY with a handicap start based on the index difference. Guarantee that would bring a bit of variety into the field again! And no, big money will not help as someone who is clever enough to research & build a good combo for cheap will come along and take the Wally, everytime. That should flush out those who simply can't figure out how to run fast, but have plenty of moolah to throw around. I'd also seriously vamp up the Summit Racing Series for all the bracket racers with regional & national events, contingency, their own Wallys, press coverage, etc. That will give those who can't hack it in class racing a high profile series to race & shine in.

I voted for class winners to fill the field since many "slow" cars I know of can run 1 under anyways. Also, Wally created NHRA so people can race against each other "heads up" on a safe track, not the street. I'm sure bracket racing isn't what he had on his mind.

Hey, if the specs aren't needed, then they won't need tech inspectors. NHRA can save money! Wait, is that the reason.....?!?!?!?

P.S. If I offended anyone, I am not sorry nor will not apologize this time. I'm calling it like I see it.

bsa633 07-22-2008 06:22 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Not before long it will be an "All Camaro run" field...

Travis Miller 07-22-2008 08:01 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 76559)
Next on the agenda, no heads up runs in eliminations!
There is a movement afoot this moment to institute that!


FYI, I understand that the no heads up runs in eliminations got voted down. Looks like heads up runs in Stock and SS eliminators should still be in effect for next season.

Travis


(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Joe DeMarzo 07-22-2008 08:47 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
I for one will either sell my car or put it back on the street if stock eliminator goes the route of no heads up in eliminations. Wally, who I never met, but I did meet Madona (at studio 54 in the 80's, that is another story) is turning over in his grave over that one. BOGUS MAN!

Ed Wright 07-22-2008 09:09 PM

Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 76559)
Next on the agenda, no heads up runs in eliminations!
There is a movement afoot this moment to institute that!


I hope you are kidding, or mistaken!

Oops! didn't see Travis's post before I made this one. Something about paying attention?

Thanks Travis!


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